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 From: apisanty at gmail.com

 Carlton, 

 I'll accept your last use of offensive language. Your next 
 message with offensive language will be the subject of work of the Ombudsman. Your 
 It leads to unacceptable vocabulary words in Spanish. 

 The conflict of interest is not Lance your business 
 own. The conflict lies in its business representation through 
 Camera. Some of these businesses are structural conflcto with 
 users because users are customers of their services. 

 Jacqueline, the expression of interest was modified and expanded after 
 start the election. 

 Alejandro Pisanty 

 On Thu, July 23, 2015 at 4:46 PM, <carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote: 
 > 
> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
>
>  Asunto: Re: Â¿Es Ã©ste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff
>  De: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
>
>  Mi amigo Alejando, voy a irritar un poco mÃ¡s con la retÃ³rica. Y
>  no por favor, acepto que estoy utilizando el sentido clÃ¡sico [InglÃ©s] de
> la palabra.
>
>
>  Lo que se alega es puramente desafortunado mierda.
>
>
>  Lanza Hinds se articula a la ICANN a travÃ©s de un memorando de
> entendimiento con la ICANN y caucus con
>  At-Large y LACRALO como representante de DevNet; Ã©l es el Presidente
>  y su representante para LACRALO.
>
>
>  Devnet es una organizaciÃ³n no gubernamental que provee desarrollo de las
> TIC
>  servicios a los que estÃ¡n en el lado pobre de la brecha digital. DevNet
>  thusly representa los intereses de los usuarios finales. Piense en Devnet
> como la versiÃ³n de Guyana
>  Internauta usarios etc etc.
>
>
>  El hombre es el presidente de la CÃ¡mara de Comercio de Georgetown en
> virtud de su
>  propiedad de una pequeÃ±a empresa; TecnologÃas BrainStreet. Ã‰l deriva su
>  ingresos, su salario digno, principalmente de ese negocio.Ã‰l no consigue
>  pagado como Presidente de la CÃ¡mara de Comercio de Georgetown.
>
>
>  AquÃ estÃ¡ el problema. No es inusual para los que estamos en el Caribe
>  tener muchas vidas; Su llamado responder al dÃ©ficit de capacidad. decir
> eso
>  Lanza no puede ser un hombre de negocios y tambiÃ©n representan los
> intereses del usuario final cuando
>  Ã©l es presidente de una ONG - el que a travÃ©s de la que ha conectado a la
> ICANN
>  sistema - sÃ³lo se parece delirante para algunos de nosotros.
>
>
>  Al menos para aquellos de nosotros en el Caribe que son voluntarios para
> una cosa
>  u otro.
>
>
>  -Carlton
>
>
>
>
>  ==============================
>  Carlton Un Samuels
>  MÃ³vil: 876-818-1799
>  * Estrategia, PlaneaciÃ³n, Gobierno, EvaluaciÃ³n y plazos de entrega *
>  =============================
>
>
>  El Jue, 23 de julio 2015 a las 4:20 de la tarde, el Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> Baruch &lt;
>  apisan at unam.mx&gt; escribiÃ³:
>
>
> >  Carlton,
> >
> >
> >  The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable conflict
> > of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the election
> > was in course.
> >
> >  Simple. No rhetoric needed.
> >
> >  Alejandro Pisanty
> >
> >
> >  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> > Facultad de QuÃƒÂmica UNAM
> > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
> >
> >
> >
> > +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD
> >
> > +525541444475 DESDE MÃƒâ€°XICO SMS +525541444475
> > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
> > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
> > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
> > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
> > .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
> >   ------------------------------
> > *Desde:* lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> > lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Carlton
> > Samuels [carlton.samuels at gmail.com]
> > *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03
> > *Hasta:* lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > *CC:* Albert Daniels
> > *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against
> > At-Large Staff
> >
> >    I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with LACRALO is
> > debilitating.
> >
> >  I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so cannot
> > depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what I
> must
> > by avoiding vexations to my spirit.
> >
> >  But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is just
> > too much and I must break my silence.
> >
> >  In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by bullshit:
> >
> >   Definitions of bullshit
> >   noun
> >  stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.
> >  verb
> >  talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.
> >
> >
> >     Ã¢â‚¬â€¹It is misleading, even dishonest, to allege misconduct by At-Large
> > staff in this instance and I will tell you why.
> >
> >  Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will
> > repeat it here for effect.
> >
> >  In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established and
> > where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying all
> > other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly
> [s]elected. Ã¢â‚¬â€¹
> >
> >  But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the process
> > is, well, let me be generous and say uneven, at best.
> >
> >  We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the
> > nomination portion of the process without calling the entire [s]election
> > process into question.
> >
> >  So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to come
> > along, slowly.  That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it is a
> > poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in the
> > first place!
> >
> >  As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same for
> > other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.
> >
> >  Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome after
> > trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk of
> > reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.
> >
> >  Now, to the hypocrites.  I ask your forgiveness for not being a good
> > Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.
> >
> >  In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed
> > colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was nominated
> > unopposed.  I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only for
> > the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a single
> > 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and
> > expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very
> > important ICANN councils.
> >
> >  I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to muddy
> > the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris being
> > de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do
> then.
> >
> >  With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place.  And
> > the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for
> Lance
> > Hinds.
> >
> >  It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is
> > because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first
> place.
> >
> >  Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our now
> > erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of
> 'impropriety'
> > raised!
> >
> >  So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume the
> > guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even asleep
> > at the switch.
> >
> >  Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other
> > operating conditions are applied.
> >
> >  Go figure.
> >
> >  -Carlton Samuels
> >
> >  ==============================
> >  Carlton A Samuels
> > Mobile: 876-818-1799
> > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> > =============================
> >
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>
>
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