[lac-discuss-en] ? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_de_datos_personales Protection = iso-8859-1 = q = 2C_privacidad???

asoto at ibero-americano.org asoto at ibero-americano.org
Fri Jun 13 19:57:53 UTC 2014


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 Subject: Re:? = Iso-8859-1 == q F3n_de_datos_personales Protection = iso-8859-1 = q = 2C_privacidad??? 
 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org

 My apologies Fatima, mo gross error, and thanks for remembering. 


 Best Regards 






 Alberto Soto 






 From: Fatima Cambronero [mailto: fatimacambronero at gmail.com] 
 Posted on: Friday, June 13, 2014 4:54 pm 
 To: Alberto Soto 
 CC: Alejandro Pisanty; LACRALO Espaol 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Protection of Personal Data Privacy 






 Alberto, all, 






 Perhaps my mail was lost on April 6 where abordeste topic 
 (Data retention), I made my comments and made a job offer 
 on this subject: Data protection laws of each of our countries 
 related to the retention of data.Allpropuse theme to work 
 by country, the ALS of each country are grouped together to address the issue. All 
 estexplicado by quesa proposal. 


 You can see the record of that mail and given here: 
 http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-es/2014/008846.html 


 Unfortunately nobody answered that email or that proposal. 


 In this link: 
 http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-es/2014/date.html that 
 is the record of the first part of the year of discussions LACRALO 
 podrn see quines have been pushing various issues you mention, 
 Whois such as (t, Alexander, Ada, I), although in our THIN 
 we have experts involved in the issue in both WGs and RTs that 
 informndonos be and will be able to discuss best guindonos this 
 matter and come to take positions in LACRALO. 


 Recall in addition that the data protection laws of the respective 
 passes not within the scope of ESTN ICANN.Sen this case the RAA as 
 Article description of the item specifications and data retention 
 propsitos potentially legtimos for recoleccin / retention data. 


 Best Regards, 


 Fatima Cambronero 






 The June 13, 2014, 16:12, Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org 
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> &gt; Wrote: 


 Alejandro, the intention is not to form a library. Often 
 Note capacitacin. This is a way to train: the search and 
 reading, and who performs as desired, without impositions. There 
 libraries containing all this information, and those that exist in each 
 country with its own laws, no need OF ANY use agreement. It 
 songs, and happily remain the past, but it's part of everything 
 we have to do. 


 For what? A few examples of the many for which we have 
 know a little more than Protection of personal data: 






 - ICANN's public consultation on 2013 RAA Data Retention 
 Specification Data Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and 
 Retention1 


 - New gTLD Program. Personal Data Privacy statement: 1. 
 International transfer 


 - Article 29 Data Protection Working Party (Brussels, JUN 2013) 


 - Letter to ICANN Superior Protection of European Council 
 Facts (April 2014). Purpose: Recopilacin data, the retencinyl 
 aprivacidad in the context of the contract of Registrars (RAA 2013) 


 - WHOIS Beta. Task Art. 29 


 - Declaration of Montevideo on the future of the cooperation 
 Internet was one of the basic elements of the strategic plan 2013-2015 
 Regin of Latin America and Caribbean. 






 During the period of review, only two people opine on the 
 first example.Javier Pallero now have an excellent professional 
 whose knowledge on this topic are really outstanding. 


 Also missing capacitacin on other issues as WHOIS, and other ANMS 
 Safety technicians as DNSs and several of the same or higher complexity. 


 But we can not do it all together, but together we can do it. 


 Just ask all work together, and one of the forms is giving me time 
 to continue working on it. 






 Best Regards 










 Alberto Soto 






 From: Alejandro Pisanty [mailto: apisanty at gmail.com <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>
 ] 
 Posted on: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:09 pm 
 To: Alberto Soto 
 CC: Javier Pallero; LACRALO Espaol 


 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Protection of Personal Data Privacy 








 Alberto, 






 but the discussion will cul ...? cultural order that will make LACRALO 
 work to form a library of data protection laws 
 personal? 






 We will reverse: 






 Asexisten Libraries, made by dedicated organizations so 
 both professional privacy issue as the file and library. For 
 access laws is best to seek one of these collections and make agreements 
 for possible use. 






 But above all for what? we will make a draft LACRALO - as 
 should be, with mission, vision, objectives, goals, resources allocated, 
 commitments, charter, iron triangle, ... accountability - that 
 consists confront each ccTLD of the region with the applicable laws 
 your country? 






 Sounds a little more ambitious to do a collection of songs and there will 
 to be very well prepared to undertake it.And sure there is no 
 best instance - for example, in each country, or the type of the Observatory 
 Inter-American Data Protection - now you esthaciendo. 






 Another problem in this area as users will face some 
 countries in the region: international treaties such as the TPP or TPPA 
 (Treaty of Association Transpacfico) that include very especficas clusulas 
 determine the characteristics of the &quot;whois&quot; in ccTLDs, always in favor of 
 commercial interests, particularly those of companies in EU. 
 We are prepared as LACRALO to address this issue? (I can submit 
 more details if required). 






 In associations which you represent ESTN in touch with ccTLDs 
 about some of these issues? quposiciones have our associations? 






 Best regards. 






 Alejandro Pisanty 








 6/12/2014 10:18 GMT-05: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org 
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org><mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org 
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> &gt;&gt;: 




 Thanks Javier! I will ask them to please every member of 
 our ALS, to try to send The legislation of his country to 
 respect. If there is a Law of Protection of Personal Data (the link), if 
 estcumpliendo it is, if there are other ways to get data 
 personal. In several countries there are organizations that provide quasi ghosts 
 data against with current legislation. It is the foundation we need to 
 good discussion. 


 Best Regards 






 Alberto Soto 








 From: Javier Pallero [mailto: javierjosepallero at gmail.com 
<mailto:javierjosepallero at gmail.com><mailto:javierjosepallero at gmail.com 
<mailto:javierjosepallero at gmail.com> &gt;] 


 Posted on: Thursday, June 12, 2014 24:11
 To: Alberto Soto 
 CC: LACRALO Espaol 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Protection of Personal Data Privacy 






 This is interesting since in Argentina Alberto, for example, can be 
 access the name, Tax ID number, ID and any data delegacin 
 registrant  https://nic.ar/busqueda-dominio-no-disponible.xhtml 


 In the old system the direccinfsica pruning found that registrtbNL&gt; too. But also with the data found in the search that 
 It is not difficult to figure out. 


 There are certain details (name, national identity, identification 
 tax or social security, occupation, date of birth and address) that 
 Argentina law allows treatment without obtaining the consent of the owner, 
 hacindolos &quot;free circulation&quot;. They are showing nic.ar 
<http://nic.ar><http://nic.ar><http://nic.ar> And sometimes, these data 
 are too (when mxime now gives the analysis of extracted metadata 
 allde what explcito more information) 




 Our law (and to my knowledge, several in the region) followed 
 European Directive 95/46/EC and an effective reform process. But 
 least in the case of Argentina missing something that the European directive Stiene: 
 express references to principles of proportionality. Not only is qu 
 podrn be trafficked data freely, but how much is needed for 
 fulfillment of the purposes of registration. 


 In what concerns us, it is the proportionality in the data 
 shown and its utility for the public record holders 
 pas domains point. Efecturar be interesting and a good survey 
 establish some principles for assessing how managers 
 ccTLDs in the region treated (ycmo MUST try) data 
 ownership. 


 Finally, in the uk the European Directive does not apply, and almost as 
 in USA, laissez faire holds the reins. Also serves to these 
 questions that come to mind for the region. 


 Greetings. 








 Javier J. Pallero


 http://about.me/javierpallero <http://www.linkedin.com/in/javierpallero>








 The June 12, 2014, 11:15 AM, Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org 
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org><mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org 
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> &gt; <mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org 
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org><mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org 
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> &gt;&gt;&gt; Wrote: 




 This is also important to study subject, and is not legal technician 
 informtico technician. The domain administrator. Uk, unlike the 
 generality of the world, open ms personal data atodos rather to 
 any. 


 Best Regards 






 Alberto Soto 






 http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-domai 
<http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/nominet-new-rules-uk-doma 
 in end-privacy&gt; 
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