[lac-discuss-en] 193 Application FUNDETIC BOLIVIA
vanda at uol.com.br
vanda at uol.com.br
Fri Mar 7 17:17:12 UTC 2014
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Subject: Re: 193 Application FUNDETIC BOLIVIA
From: vanda at uol.com.br
What is relevant is to have profit!
All organizations seeking resources offering services, either
getting help from governments against their services or provide
sua services to reach your clients to achieve social objectives.
For example, ICANN is a nonprofit organization but charge
their services. Although its focus is to maintain stability and security
rede, has an important role to users (and as we would support,
ALAC us RALOS and if non are dedicated to users?)
ICANN may not be an ALS? I think if that should be.
Again my 2 cents.
Vanda Scartezini
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On 03/07/14 10:46, "Humberto Carrasco" <hcarrascob at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Alberto,
>
> Slo comment. Bringing you pose is meant to look like
> Our organizations can not charge any activity.
>
> Up to universities and non-profit must sometimes acquire sum
> Simblicas to help achieve their goals.
>
> I return to disagree on this point. The fact that charged for something,
> Means going against our bylaws or a certification.
>
> However, I appreciate having generated this healthy debate.
>
> A hug
>
> On 03/07/2014 1:41 pm, Alberto Soto wrote:
Humberto >> Hi, may agree with you that the bylaws may
>> Meet, but it will seem totally contradicts with the discussion in
The >>
Please choose the web >> institution. All of the two examples you cite,
May >>
Be considered >> stamp by Da World Internet
>> Where
Mentioned >> to the peasants.This would be commendable if actions
Previous >> provide the information and knowledge required, no
Only >>
>> For that event, but actually actions that indicate the beginning and
Continuity >>
User >> Internet.
The other example >> "My web" is to "under joint price", ie
That >>
>> Who can not pay, will have no.
My personal conclusion >> The Statute differs greatly, both
>> Actions
>> Mission and the organization as purely commercial orientation and
>> Particularly towards the government, which does not satisfy the conditions
To certify >>. If you do what the statute says, will coincide, but
Est >>
Doing things like >> nico allfigura study, with conclusions
Commercial >> that serve to provide its services to companies and
>> Government.
>>
Best regards >>
>>
Alberto Soto >>
>>
----- Original Message ----- >>
>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
Humberto Carrasco >>
>> Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 9:49 a.m.
>> To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] application FUNDETIC 193 BOLIVIA
>>
Estimated >> Alberto,
>>
I just put in >> the wiki the reasons why I disagree with you and
Should >> understand that if accepted the certification of this organization.
>>
>> Notwithstanding this, the aquabajo copy.
>>
Greetings >>
>>
Estimated >> Alberto,
>>
>> First of all appreciate your analysis on this postulacin. Without
>> But let me disagree with you for the following reasons:
>>
>> 1 -. Throughout my analysis of postulacina judgment must be a
So >> analysis and one line.So says the relationship analysis
>> With
Statutes or regulations >> governing the applicant organization. The
Analysis >>
Background >> says relationship with the actions that have been made for the benefit
The >>
End user >> or put another way "works" performed or
>> Performed in
>> Benefit of end users.
>>
>> 2 -. Deberamos With these criteria to check whether the applicant meets the
>> Requirements. Proceed to perform this analysis.
>>
>> * A -. Analysis form *
>>
>> From this point of view we have the rules cited by Alberto and
Also >>
By Ftima >>. However, in my opinion. Is omitted an element that ms
>> Relevant. The expression user can not be in the rules
>> Specifically,
Travs >> but if other more general expressions, such as
Ciudadanao >> population. These can be found in the statutes
Orgnicos >>
The applicant entity >>.
>>
>> The dictionary of the Royal Academy of Espaola Language (RAE) defines
As >>
* >> * _ciudadana_ To:
>>
* >> "Citizen. *
>>
* >> 1. * F.Cualidad and citizen rights.
>>
>> * 2. * F.Conjunto citizens of a people or nation.
>>
>> * 3. * Own f.Comportamiento of a good citizen. "
>>
>> As you can see in the second acepcin can be perfectly
Including users >>.
>>
>> Considering this, the Statute orgnico FUNDETIC set within
Their >>
>> The following specific objectives:
>>
>> "Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of
FUNDETIC >> - BOLIVIA are:
>>
B >>.Implement Society information and knowledge between / * the
Citizen >> * /, businesses and public and private institutions to
>> Reduce
>> Digital divide in the country. "(Emphasis added)
>>
Aqupuede >> look like this public expression used in
Contraposicina >> companies and public or private institutions,
Making her a >>
My judgment >> synonymous with the user.
>>
>> Now, for the expression * _poblacin_ * SAR, it has pointed
>> Following:
>>
>> (From the lat. / Populati (o,-o-nis /).
>>
* >> 1. * F.Acciny effect to people.
>>
>> * 2. * F.Conjunto people inhabiting the Earth or any division
Geographic >> it.
>>
>> * 3. * F.Conjunto of buildings and spaces of a city.
>>
* 4 >>. * F. / / / Ecol. / Group of individuals of the same species occupying a
>> Same geographic area.
>>
* >> 5. * F. / / / Sociol. / Set of individuals or things gone through a
Statistican >> evaluation by sampling.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the status of FUNDETIC points out the following:
>>
>> "Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of
FUNDETIC >> - BOLIVIA are:
>>
F >>. Plan and execute processes in ICT capacitacin Travs of
>> Workshops, seminars, courses, exhibitions., Promoting
Creation >>
>> New capabilities and skills in different segments of the
* >> / Population / * in the context of social development Economic and
>> Production. "
>> (Emphasis added)
>>
Aquse >> refers to the various segments of the population where
Should >>
Included >> users.
>>
>> From this point of view, in my opinion, this organization
Statutorily >>
If estorientada >> develop activities for users
>> Internet.
>>
* >> B -. * Background Analysis
>>
>> As expressed in the presence of aquestamos activities
Are >>
>> Have been or can be made for the benefit of users.
>>
Here >>, here are some examples that have been made and confirmed in the
Please choose >>
Web >> this institution.
>>
At the section >> Programs and projects.Allpor example, you can go to the
>> Section that says "2012" and can be found with the following:
>>
>> "Audience design contest for the emission of three postal stamps
World >> commemoration da Internet "
>>
>> If the overall goal of the contest is reviewed, you can find this
Declararcin >>:
>>
>> "GENERAL PURPOSE: To encourage the active participation of institutions
>> Government, academic, business and industry and indigenous organizations
Originating >> farmers across the country, to investigate and issue a
Graphical >> given that symbolizes the importance and meaning
Has >>
Bolivia >> for the use and application of the Technologies of Informaciny
Comunicacin >> including the use of Internet as tool
Paramount >>
Promotion and development of >> Society Informaciny reduction
The >>
>> Digital Divide in the country. "
>>
There is a >> reference to indigenous and peasant organizations that
Course >>
>> Users must be considered.
>>
Also >> this organization may be involved in a program
>> Called "my first web program":
>>
>>
Http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/index.php/programas-y-proyectos/mi-pr >>
Ime >>
Ra-web >>
>>
Aquse express >> "The Foundation for the Development of Technologies
Informaciny Comunicacin >> - * "FUNDETIC-BOLIVIA" *, is pleased to
Taking >>
_Programme MI >> the * FIRST * WEB_ having the same order of
>> "Encourage and promote the use of Internet access and the development of
>> Content, services and applications oriented: students,
>> Academics, professionals, small and medium enterprises who wish
Have >>
Presence on the web >> an integral cost. ""
>>
Reference to college students >> Professional is made, which
Also >>
Have the character of >> users.
>>
* >> / _In Synthesis, in my view fully meet the requirements of
>> Form and
Background >> alluded to certify this organizacin._ / ** / __ / *
>>
Greetings >>
>>
>>
>> El 03/07/2014 12:16 am, Alberto Soto wrote:
>>> Dear, just uploaded to the wiki my comment with suggestion
>>> Not accept the certification. I copy down the same comment:
>>>
Observations >>> after reading their bylaws, procedures and
Choose a content >>> web:
Mission differs >>> contained in the Statute: "... policies,
>>> Implement strategies and coordinate actions aimed at reducing the
Digital divide >>> Travs pulse of the Technologies
Informaciny >>> the Comunicacin in all sectors and fields of the
>> Society. "
The statute generally >>> I estorientado: "... citizens, businesses and
>>> Public and private institutions. "Never indicates actions aimed
Persons >>> a particular way.
>>>
Observations on the >>> web page:
>>> The mission: "To encourage and coordinate relations with the government
Bolivian society >>> by the management of ICT tools in
All sectors and >>> FIELDS. "
In >>> "About Us", the reason for its creation: "Created to
Contribute >>> the Plurinational State of Bolivia to the planning,
Direcciny >>> execution of the actions necessary to implement the
Electronic >>> Government in the country through the diffusion and use of
Technologies of Informaciny >>> Comunicacin (ICT). "
>>>
As end user >>> Internet once quoted, "About
Us >>> "but all actions aim to serve in the field
Government >>> I aclarndolo specifically. This can be seen in
>>> "Key Features", "Mission", "Policy How quality", "Objectives
Institutional >>> "," General Strategy "," Complaint "(orientation
Commercial >>> "
>> "Content and Services"
>>> (Commercial orientation), "Technology" (commercial orientation).
In >>> "success factors, politician Leadership" requires "participation
Active and direct >>> government officials. "
In >>> "working components" estorientado to government and business.
Regarding >>> "Services" is purely commercial.
>>>
>>> From the time of its creation, there was no action it intended to
Internet >>> end user, and the foregoing, all his
Estorientado >>> drive, on a commercial basis, to work with
Companies and government >>> their country.
>>>
No >>> have in their statutes, or procedures, or in its Pgina
Web >>> nothing that allows a glimpse of a previous or future work with the
>>> (Non-commercial) Internet end user therefore, must not be
>> Certified.
----- Original Message ----- >>>
>>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
Sylvia at internautabrasil.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014
9:33 pm >>>
>>> To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> Subject: [lac-discuss-es] application FUNDETIC 193 BOLIVIA
>>>
Dear members of LACRALO >>>
>>>
>>> As has already informed the staff, we have received an application by
>>> An organization of Bolivia to be part of LACRALO.
>>>
>>> As usual, ALAC, one asks the region "advise" a
Advice >>> before incorporacino not vote for an organization to
At-Large >>.
We send >>> this advice for the day 10/03/2014.
>>>
We need >>> comments LACRALO members, and for them
>>> Have opened a wiki page:
>>> https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/Regional+Advice+needed+ALS
+ Appli >>>
Cation +193 + >>> + BOLIVIA FUNDETIC
>>>
Will receive comments until >>> 03/09/2014 23:59 UTC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
See >>> attached the statute and the rules of FUNDETIC.
Http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/ >>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Greetings >>>
>>>
Sylvia >>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
___________________________________________________ >>>
>>>
Sylvia Herlein >>>
>>>
>>> <mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org> sylvia at internautabrasil.org
>>>
ICANN Secretary-LACRALO >>> / 2012-2014 - <http://atlarge.icann.org/>
Http://atlarge.icann.org >>>
>>>
2009-2015 Secretary FLUI >>>
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