[lac-discuss-en] 193 Application FUNDETIC BOLIVIA

Fri Mar 7 13:42:46 UTC 2014

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 Subject: Re: 193 Application FUNDETIC BOLIVIA 
 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org

 Hi Humberto, may agree with you that the bylaws may 
 meet, but will seem to be completely contradictory to what is stated in the 
 choose a web of the institution. All of the two examples you cite, may 
 be considered the stamp for the World Day of Internet, where 
 referred to the peasants. This would be commendable if actions 
 prior to providing the information and knowledge necessary to not only 
 for that event, but actually actions that indicate the beginning and continuity 
 Internet user. 
 The other example &quot;My web&quot; is to &quot;under joint price&quot;, ie 
 who can not pay, will have no. 
 My personal conclusion, the Statute differs greatly, both actions 
 mission and the organization as purely commercial orientation and 
 particularly towards the government, which does not satisfy the conditions 
 to certify.If you do what the statute says, will match, but is 
 doing things as the only allfigura study, with conclusions 
 business that serve to provide its services to companies and 
 government. 

 Best Regards 

 Alberto Soto 

 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of 
 Humberto Carrasco 
 Posted on: Friday, March 7, 2014 9:49 a.m. 
 To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] application FUNDETIC 193 BOLIVIA 

 Dear Alberto, 

 I just put in the wiki the reasons why I disagree with you and 
 understand that if I should accept the certification of this organization. 

 Notwithstanding the foregoing, aquabajo copy. 

 Regards 

 Dear Alberto, 

 First of all appreciate your analysis on this postulacin. Without 
 But let me disagree with you for the following reasons:

 1 -. Throughout my analysis of postulacina judgment must be a 
 and one way analysis of background. The analysis so says relationship with 
 statutes or regulations governing the applicant organization. The analysis 
 background says relationship with the actions that have been made for the benefit of 
 end user or in other words &quot;works&quot; or to be carried in 
 benefit of end users. 

 . 2 - With these criteria deberamos check whether the applicant meets the 
 requirements. Proceed to perform this analysis. 

 * A -. Analysis form * 

 From this point of view we have the rules and also cited by Alberto 
 by Fátima. However, in my opinion. Is omitted an element that ms 
 relevant. The expression user can not be in the rules expressly 
 Travs but if other more general expressions, such as 
 ciudadanao population. These can be found down the organic statutes 
 the applicant entity. 

 The dictionary of the Real Academia de la Espaola Language (SAR) defined as 
 * _ciudadana_ * A:

 * &quot;Citizen. * 

 * 1. * F.Cualidad and citizen rights. 

 * 2. * F.Conjunto citizens of a people or nation. 

 * 3. * Own f.Comportamiento of a good citizen. &quot; 

 As you can see in the second acepcin can be perfectly 
 including users. 

 Considering this, the Statute orgnico FUNDETIC set within its 
 the following specific objectives: 

 &quot;Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of 
 FUNDETIC - BOLIVIA are: 

 b. Implement Society information and knowledge between / * the 
 Citizen * /, businesses and public and private institutions, to reduce 
 digital divide in the country. &quot;(Emphasis added) 

 Aqupuede seen as the expression is used in public 
 contraposicina companies and public or private institutions, making her a 
 my judgment synonymous with the user. 

 Now, for the expression * _poblacin_ * SAR, it has pointed 
 following: 

 (From lat./ Populati (or,-o-nis /). 

 * 1. * F.Acciny effect to people. 

 * 2. * F.Conjunto people inhabiting the Earth or any division 
 geographic it. 

 * 3. * F.Conjunto of buildings and spaces of a city. 

 * 4. * F. / / / Ecol. / Group of individuals of the same species occupying a 
 same geographic area. 

 * 5. * F. / / / Sociol. / Set of individuals or objects subjected to a 
 statistican evaluation by sampling. 

 Meanwhile, the status of FUNDETIC points out the following: 

 &quot;Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of 
 FUNDETIC - BOLIVIA are: 

 f. Plan and execute processes in ICT capacitacin Travs of 
 workshops, seminars, courses, exhibitions., to promote the creation 
 new skills and abilities in different segments of the 
 * / Population / * in the context of social development Economic and productive. &quot; 
 (Emphasis added) 

 Aquse refers to the various segments of the population which must 
 users included.

 From this point of view, in my opinion, this organization statutorily 
 if estorientada develop activities for Internet users. 

 * B -. * Background Analysis 

 As expressed in the presence of aquestamos activities 
 have been or can be made for the benefit of users. 

 Here, here are some examples that you have made and consisting on page 
 web this institution. 

 At the section Programs and projects. Allpor example, you can go to the 
 section that says &quot;2012&quot; and can be found with the following: 

 &quot;Audience design contest for the emission of three postal stamps 
 commemoration of the day the Internet world &quot; 

 If the general objective of the contest is reviewed, you can find this 
 declararcin:

 &quot;GENERAL PURPOSE: To encourage the active participation of institutions 
 government, academic, business and industry and indigenous organizations 
 native farmers across the country, to investigate and issue a 
 graphical proposal that symbolizes the importance and significance of 
 Bolivia for the use and application of the Technologies of Informaciny 
 Communication including the use of the Internet as primary tool 
 promotion and development of the Society Informaciny reduction of 
 Digital divide in the country. &quot; 

 There is a reference to indigenous and peasant organizations of course 
 users must be considered. 

 You can also see that this organization is involved in a program 
 called &quot;my first web program&quot;: 

 http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/index.php/programas-y-proyectos/mi-prime 
 ra-web

 Aquse expresses &quot;The Foundation for the Development of Technologies 
 Informaciny Comunicacin - * &quot;FUNDETIC-BOLIVIA&quot; *, is pleased to Launch 
 the * _Programme WEB_ FIRST MI * thereof having the purpose of 
  &quot;To encourage and promote the use of Internet access and the development of 
 content, services and applications oriented: students, 
 academics, professionals, small and medium enterprises who wish to have 
 presence on the web to a charity cost. &quot;&quot; 

 Reference to students, academics, professionals do, which also 
 have the character of users. 

 * / _In Synthesis, in my opinion are fully complied with the formal requirements and 
 background alluded to certify this organizacin._ / ** / __ / * 

 Regards 

 El 07/03/2014 12:16 am, Alberto Soto wrote: 
> Estimados,  acabo de subir a la wiki mi comentario, con sugerencia de 
> no aceptar la certificación. Copio abajo el mismo comentario:
>
> Observaciones luego de la lectura de sus Estatutos, procedimientos y 
> contenido de página web:
> Difiere la misión contenido en el Estatuto: "...  políticas, 
> implementar estrategias y coordinar acciones orientadas a reducir la 
> brecha digital a través del impulso de las Tecnologías de la 
> Información y la Comunicación en todos los sectores y ámbitos de la
> El estatuto en general, está orientado:  "...ciudadanía, empresas e 
> instituciones públicas y privadas." Nunca indica acciones orientadas  
> a personas en forma particular.
>
> Observaciones en la página web:
> La misión: " Favorecer y coordinar las relaciones del gobierno con la 
> sociedad boliviana mediante la gestión de instrumentos en TICs en 
> todos los sectores y  ámbitos."
> En "Acerca de nosotros", el motivo de su creación: "Creada para 
> coadyuvar al Estado Plurinacional de Bolivia a la planificación, 
> dirección y ejecución de las acciones necesarias para implementar el 
> Gobierno Electrónico en el país mediante la difusión y uso de las 
> Tecnologías de la Información y Comunicación (TIC)."
>
> Solo se cita al usuario final de internet una vez , en "Acerca de 
> nosotros", pero todas las acciones apuntan a servir en el ámbito 
> gubernamental, aclarándolo específicamente. Esto puede verse en 
> "Funciones principales", "Misión", "Política de calidad", "Objetivos 
> institucionales", "Estrategia general", "Demanda" (Orientación comercial",
> (orientación comercial), "Tecnología" (orientación comercial).
> En "Factores de éxito, Liderazgo político", requiere "participación 
> activa y directa de funcionarios del gobierno."
> En "Componentes de trabajo" está orientado a gobierno y empresas. 
> Respecto a "Servicios", es netamente comercial.
>
> Desde el momento de su creación, no hubo ninguna acción destinada al 
> usuario final de internet, y por lo expuesto precedentemente, todo su 
> accionar está orientado, con criterio comercial, a trabajar con 
> empresas y gobierno de su país.
>
> No tiene en sus estatutos, ni en sus procedimientos, ni en su página 
> web, nada que permita vislumbrar un trabajo previo o futuro con el 
> usuario final (no comercial) de Internet, por lo cual, no debería ser
 > 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de 
> sylvia at internautabrasil.org Enviado el: martes, 04 de marzo de 2014 
> 09:33 p.m.
> Para: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] aplicacion 193 FUNDETIC BOLIVIA
>
> Estimados miembros de LACRALO
>
> Como ya ha informado el staff, hemos recibido una aplicación por parte 
> de una organización de Bolivia para formar parte de LACRALO.
>
> Como es costumbre, ALAC, solicita a la región un " advise", un 
> consejo, antes de votar por la incorporación o no una organización al
 > 
> Debemos enviar este consejo para el día 10/03/2014.
>
> Necesitamos los comentarios de los miembros de LACRALO, y para ellos 
> hemos abierto una pagina wiki:
> https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/Regional+Advice+needed+ALS
> +Appli
> cation+193+FUNDETIC+BOLIVIA
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> Recibiremos comentarios hasta el 9/03/2014 a las 23:59 UTC
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> Vean en anexo el estatuto y el reglamento interno de FUNDETIC.
> http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/
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> Saludos
>
> Sylvia
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