[lac-discuss-en] 193 Application FUNDETIC BOLIVIA
asoto at ibero-americano.org
asoto at ibero-americano.org
Fri Mar 7 13:42:46 UTC 2014
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Subject: Re: 193 Application FUNDETIC BOLIVIA
From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
Hi Humberto, may agree with you that the bylaws may
meet, but will seem to be completely contradictory to what is stated in the
choose a web of the institution. All of the two examples you cite, may
be considered the stamp for the World Day of Internet, where
referred to the peasants. This would be commendable if actions
prior to providing the information and knowledge necessary to not only
for that event, but actually actions that indicate the beginning and continuity
Internet user.
The other example "My web" is to "under joint price", ie
who can not pay, will have no.
My personal conclusion, the Statute differs greatly, both actions
mission and the organization as purely commercial orientation and
particularly towards the government, which does not satisfy the conditions
to certify.If you do what the statute says, will match, but is
doing things as the only allfigura study, with conclusions
business that serve to provide its services to companies and
government.
Best Regards
Alberto Soto
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[Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
Humberto Carrasco
Posted on: Friday, March 7, 2014 9:49 a.m.
To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] application FUNDETIC 193 BOLIVIA
Dear Alberto,
I just put in the wiki the reasons why I disagree with you and
understand that if I should accept the certification of this organization.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, aquabajo copy.
Regards
Dear Alberto,
First of all appreciate your analysis on this postulacin. Without
But let me disagree with you for the following reasons:
1 -. Throughout my analysis of postulacina judgment must be a
and one way analysis of background. The analysis so says relationship with
statutes or regulations governing the applicant organization. The analysis
background says relationship with the actions that have been made for the benefit of
end user or in other words "works" or to be carried in
benefit of end users.
. 2 - With these criteria deberamos check whether the applicant meets the
requirements. Proceed to perform this analysis.
* A -. Analysis form *
From this point of view we have the rules and also cited by Alberto
by Fátima. However, in my opinion. Is omitted an element that ms
relevant. The expression user can not be in the rules expressly
Travs but if other more general expressions, such as
ciudadanao population. These can be found down the organic statutes
the applicant entity.
The dictionary of the Real Academia de la Espaola Language (SAR) defined as
* _ciudadana_ * A:
* "Citizen. *
* 1. * F.Cualidad and citizen rights.
* 2. * F.Conjunto citizens of a people or nation.
* 3. * Own f.Comportamiento of a good citizen. "
As you can see in the second acepcin can be perfectly
including users.
Considering this, the Statute orgnico FUNDETIC set within its
the following specific objectives:
"Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of
FUNDETIC - BOLIVIA are:
b. Implement Society information and knowledge between / * the
Citizen * /, businesses and public and private institutions, to reduce
digital divide in the country. "(Emphasis added)
Aqupuede seen as the expression is used in public
contraposicina companies and public or private institutions, making her a
my judgment synonymous with the user.
Now, for the expression * _poblacin_ * SAR, it has pointed
following:
(From lat./ Populati (or,-o-nis /).
* 1. * F.Acciny effect to people.
* 2. * F.Conjunto people inhabiting the Earth or any division
geographic it.
* 3. * F.Conjunto of buildings and spaces of a city.
* 4. * F. / / / Ecol. / Group of individuals of the same species occupying a
same geographic area.
* 5. * F. / / / Sociol. / Set of individuals or objects subjected to a
statistican evaluation by sampling.
Meanwhile, the status of FUNDETIC points out the following:
"Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of
FUNDETIC - BOLIVIA are:
f. Plan and execute processes in ICT capacitacin Travs of
workshops, seminars, courses, exhibitions., to promote the creation
new skills and abilities in different segments of the
* / Population / * in the context of social development Economic and productive. "
(Emphasis added)
Aquse refers to the various segments of the population which must
users included.
From this point of view, in my opinion, this organization statutorily
if estorientada develop activities for Internet users.
* B -. * Background Analysis
As expressed in the presence of aquestamos activities
have been or can be made for the benefit of users.
Here, here are some examples that you have made and consisting on page
web this institution.
At the section Programs and projects. Allpor example, you can go to the
section that says "2012" and can be found with the following:
"Audience design contest for the emission of three postal stamps
commemoration of the day the Internet world "
If the general objective of the contest is reviewed, you can find this
declararcin:
"GENERAL PURPOSE: To encourage the active participation of institutions
government, academic, business and industry and indigenous organizations
native farmers across the country, to investigate and issue a
graphical proposal that symbolizes the importance and significance of
Bolivia for the use and application of the Technologies of Informaciny
Communication including the use of the Internet as primary tool
promotion and development of the Society Informaciny reduction of
Digital divide in the country. "
There is a reference to indigenous and peasant organizations of course
users must be considered.
You can also see that this organization is involved in a program
called "my first web program":
http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/index.php/programas-y-proyectos/mi-prime
ra-web
Aquse expresses "The Foundation for the Development of Technologies
Informaciny Comunicacin - * "FUNDETIC-BOLIVIA" *, is pleased to Launch
the * _Programme WEB_ FIRST MI * thereof having the purpose of
"To encourage and promote the use of Internet access and the development of
content, services and applications oriented: students,
academics, professionals, small and medium enterprises who wish to have
presence on the web to a charity cost. ""
Reference to students, academics, professionals do, which also
have the character of users.
* / _In Synthesis, in my opinion are fully complied with the formal requirements and
background alluded to certify this organizacin._ / ** / __ / *
Regards
El 07/03/2014 12:16 am, Alberto Soto wrote:
> Estimados, acabo de subir a la wiki mi comentario, con sugerencia de
> no aceptar la certificación. Copio abajo el mismo comentario:
>
> Observaciones luego de la lectura de sus Estatutos, procedimientos y
> contenido de página web:
> Difiere la misión contenido en el Estatuto: "... políticas,
> implementar estrategias y coordinar acciones orientadas a reducir la
> brecha digital a través del impulso de las Tecnologías de la
> Información y la Comunicación en todos los sectores y ámbitos de la
> El estatuto en general, está orientado: "...ciudadanía, empresas e
> instituciones públicas y privadas." Nunca indica acciones orientadas
> a personas en forma particular.
>
> Observaciones en la página web:
> La misión: " Favorecer y coordinar las relaciones del gobierno con la
> sociedad boliviana mediante la gestión de instrumentos en TICs en
> todos los sectores y ámbitos."
> En "Acerca de nosotros", el motivo de su creación: "Creada para
> coadyuvar al Estado Plurinacional de Bolivia a la planificación,
> dirección y ejecución de las acciones necesarias para implementar el
> Gobierno Electrónico en el país mediante la difusión y uso de las
> Tecnologías de la Información y Comunicación (TIC)."
>
> Solo se cita al usuario final de internet una vez , en "Acerca de
> nosotros", pero todas las acciones apuntan a servir en el ámbito
> gubernamental, aclarándolo específicamente. Esto puede verse en
> "Funciones principales", "Misión", "Política de calidad", "Objetivos
> institucionales", "Estrategia general", "Demanda" (Orientación comercial",
> (orientación comercial), "Tecnología" (orientación comercial).
> En "Factores de éxito, Liderazgo político", requiere "participación
> activa y directa de funcionarios del gobierno."
> En "Componentes de trabajo" está orientado a gobierno y empresas.
> Respecto a "Servicios", es netamente comercial.
>
> Desde el momento de su creación, no hubo ninguna acción destinada al
> usuario final de internet, y por lo expuesto precedentemente, todo su
> accionar está orientado, con criterio comercial, a trabajar con
> empresas y gobierno de su país.
>
> No tiene en sus estatutos, ni en sus procedimientos, ni en su página
> web, nada que permita vislumbrar un trabajo previo o futuro con el
> usuario final (no comercial) de Internet, por lo cual, no debería ser
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de
> sylvia at internautabrasil.org Enviado el: martes, 04 de marzo de 2014
> 09:33 p.m.
> Para: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] aplicacion 193 FUNDETIC BOLIVIA
>
> Estimados miembros de LACRALO
>
> Como ya ha informado el staff, hemos recibido una aplicación por parte
> de una organización de Bolivia para formar parte de LACRALO.
>
> Como es costumbre, ALAC, solicita a la región un " advise", un
> consejo, antes de votar por la incorporación o no una organización al
>
> Debemos enviar este consejo para el día 10/03/2014.
>
> Necesitamos los comentarios de los miembros de LACRALO, y para ellos
> hemos abierto una pagina wiki:
> https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/Regional+Advice+needed+ALS
> +Appli
> cation+193+FUNDETIC+BOLIVIA
>
> Recibiremos comentarios hasta el 9/03/2014 a las 23:59 UTC
>
>
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>
>
> Vean en anexo el estatuto y el reglamento interno de FUNDETIC.
> http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/
>
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>
> Saludos
>
> Sylvia
>
>
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