[lac-discuss-en] Final Consideration - Member of ALAC Election(Part 2)

[Carlton Samuels]

ROK,
If I follow your argument, nobody has the responsibility to see the RoP is
obeyed.

And in the case of a breach, everybody  has a duty to sit on their hands.

No my brother, somebody must make the call.  That is a role for the
presiding officer.

And if you disagree on the call, we have a way to resolve that disagreement.

Call for a division and count the votes.

- Carlton

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Webmaster <rok at bango.org.bb> wrote:

>   Carlton,
>
> My understanding of a petition is that you have a grievance. Then you have
> to get a certain amount of members to agree to back the petition before it
> becomes valid. This depends on so many factors that for a chair to make a
> decision that requires members to petition should be a decision of a
> serious nature and not one so simplistic and obvious that does not even
> require a decision by the Chair. The Chair is sticking his neck out and I
> am not going to validate executive authority where it does not exist.
>
> ROK
>
>  *From:* Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:49 PM
> *To:* Webmaster <rok at bango.org.bb>
> *Cc:* Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com> ;
> lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] Final Consideration - Member of ALAC
> Election(Part 2)
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Webmaster <rok at bango.org.bb> wrote:
>
>> the Chair has a right to interpret rules carte blanche.
>>
>
> We do not accept our Chair as if he was the Bishop of Rome; infallible in
> all things.
>
> As the presiding officer, the Chair's principal role is to interpret rules
> but not 'carte blanche'.  He is constrained by the RoP in the first
> instance.
>
> Here's the good thing. Every other member also has an unfettered right to
> interpret said rules.
>
> And since for our purposes, the Chair is and must be a member in ordinary,
> every other member has the right to challenge  any and every interpretation
> of the Chair.
>
> Here's the kicker.  Every member retains the absolute right to petition
> every other member to your point of view.  We call that a vote.
>
> I say again, if you fell aggrieved by the declaration, then there is a
> remedy.  Exercise it if you must.
>
> - CAS
>
>
>
>
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> Carlton A Samuels
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