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Tue Mar 6 14:27:57 UTC 2012

Hi Sylvia

I have a feeling that there's yet again some misunderstanding...

The proposal that I was commenting on is the one here: (PDF in English)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/877052/LACRALO-Costa-Rica-Events-WG/bylaws/proposals%20to%20ensure%20diversity%20of%20lacralo%20alac%20officers%20and%20Individual%20participation.pdf
.sent by Cntra last night.

And the particular bit that I thought might lead to Brasil not being
considered is quoted below:

“Caribbean” means all countries in the Caribbean Region bounded by the Caribbean
Sea, being not predominately Spanish-speaking and forming part of the Caribbean
Community;
“Latin America” means all countries belonging to the Latin American
Region, being
predominately Spanish-speaking and historically having long
uninterrupted Spanish
rule."

And given that Brasil falls neither in the Caribbean Community, and
cannot be considered Caribbean; nor is it predominantly Spanish
speaking and  having long uninterrupted Spanish rule, I don't see it
fitting in the definition of LAC proposed here either, so my concern
was  - given these two definitions in Cintra's proposal, Brasil is to
my mind indeed left out of this proposal.  That was my question  for
explanation by Cintra as the drafter of those definitions.

I totally believe that Brasil is a vital and important part of the LAC
region and would like the definition amended to make sure that Brasil
is also clearly included.

I am writing this during a break in class, so cannot go into detail on
the other points you raise, but I do strongly believe that individuals
should be allowed to participate, but not necessarily in the manner
proposed here.

Jacqueline A. Morris
Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
Free. (after Chris Lehmann )

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:25 AM,  <sylvia at prontocl.com.br> wrote:
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>  Subject: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A_Propuestas_de_la_considera? == Iso-8859-1? Q? Ci = F3n? =
>  From: sylvia at prontocl.com.br
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>  Dear J
>  You can stay calm as absolute Brazil ARE NOT EXCLUDED.
>  As is that ESTs dividing the region? For languages???
>  In addition to having 4 ALS, we believe and are part of
>  Latin American and Latino home that we are too.
>  We really must be having a serious problem of Translation An because
>  just what this group estproponiendo in its amendments is that all
>  their &quot;officers&quot; have 2 years in office and the possibility to re-choice. (
>  share with you the thought that 1 year is totally unproductive). And
>  again LACRALO agree with you that you can not pass all
>  years busy choosing their &quot;officers&quot; not really understand that in the
>  amendments sent??
>  THEN, urgent need that the secretary (and that is before
>  we all meet in CR) to send to the Official Trasnlation
>  proposal.
>  For your questions I see everything upside ESTs understanding!
>  Not talking in no time that &quot;Individual participation&quot;. Everything
>  contrary to that!
>  It is our thought that all citizens of a country to participate
>  travs of an ALS.
>  I hope I have helped you understand a bit more.
>  Kisses
>  Sylvia
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>  sylvia at internautabrasil.org
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>  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>  [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome
>  jam at jacquelinemorris.com
>  Posted in: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:38
>  To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>  Cc: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>  Assunto: Re: Proposals for the consideracin
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>  Subject: Re: Proposals for the consideracin
>  From: jam at jacquelinemorris.com
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>  Hello
>  Some comments:
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>  The first thing you notice the definition of Latin America is that
>  Brazil esttotalmente excluded, being neither the Caribbean nor
>  Espaola speaking.
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>  The idea of \u200b\u200balternating presidents and secretaras of the terms
>  an ao
>  harque continuity difficult. It takes more than a year to achieve
>  fully operational. The official exchange of all years,
>  basically,
>  LACRALO Administration has more personal and less dependent
>  effective.
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>  With regard to participation individually, I'm not sure how you will
>  work. It is each individual will count as a prior license to the
>  aggregate
>  counting them as no more than 50% of ALS in each country? So
>  if, for example, in a country with an ALS, and an individual user,
>  The individual has the same voting weight as ALS?
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>  Only my first thoughts and questions.
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>  Jacqueline A.Morris
>  The technology should be like oxygen: ubiquitous, necessary, invisible and
>  Free. (AfterChris Lehmann)
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>  On Monday, March 5, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Cintra Sooknanan
> <cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear All,
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>> Please see motions for consideration which create and enshrine diversity
>> and representation in our region at
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>  % 20to% 20ensure% 20of% 20lacralo 20diversity%%% 20alac 20officers% 20and% 20Individu
>  a% 20participation.pdf
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>> I also recognise the work of the By Law Working group and their draft
>> amendments are located here
>> https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+Bylaw+Working+Group
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>  LO + Rules + of + Procedure +2010 + - + RULE +1
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>> Thank you
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>> Cintra
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