[lac-discuss-en] 2011 election call for LACRALO to chair and secretariat

apisan at servidor.unam.mx apisan at servidor.unam.mx
Sat Feb 26 02:57:25 UTC 2011


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Subject: Re: 2011 election call for LACRALO to chair and secretariat
From: apisan at servidor.unam.mx

Ovid, 
 
I am speaking of the amplest frame since a reform sets out that  
sacraliza the re-election (although limited). 
 
Forced explanation; said that, I insist, I will avoid to participate in discussions  
procedural. 
 
Alexander Pisanty 
 
 
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      Dr Alexander Pisanty 
UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico 
 
Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 
 
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, [ iso-8859-1 ] Jose Ovid Salgueiro wrote: 
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:00:21 -0500 > From: "[ iso-8859-1 ] Jose Ovid Salgueiro" <salgueiro.jo at gmail.com> > To: ' Alexander Pisanty' <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>, > "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' Andrés Piazzá" <andrespiazza at gmail.com> > Cc: "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' LACRALO Español'" <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] 2011 election call for LACRALO > to chair and secretariat >  > Dear Alexander: > > What I understand is that this is not the voting, simply Andrés and Dev > is indicating that candidates postulate themselves as and have been some supports > (among them mio), if there is another one wishes to postulate itself, this it is the moment > to do it. > > > > > Jose Ovid > > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > Alexander Pisanty > Envoy: Friday, 25 of February of 2011 08:31 p.m. > For: Andrés Piazza > CC: Spanish !
 LACRALO > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] 2011 election call for LACRALO > to chair and secretariat > > Andrés, > > said the aforista Mariana Frenk-Westheim, "is elegant to resign". > > Repeatedly in the ICANN history the authors of reforms we have ourselves > insured of which any apparent or real benefit of the reformsthat > we impelled are applied to the successors, and not to we ourself. Like > example is "term limits" and the terms counted for those who > we were in the Board of the 2003 reform, that was brief by more of > half period our stay. > > On the same base has occurred a very hard critic to Peter Dengate-Thrush > in the introduction of economic compensation by the service to the Board; no > was only this one debatable one, but that was taken very to badly that it did not leave it it stops > application only to its successors. > > Much less appropriate seems to consider that it occurs me without process, > postulations, debates and voting an !
 automatic extension of the periods > of mandate present since !
 it would
 exclude (or will exclude, or excludes, to > fast step which we go) a democratic evaluation of the effectiveness, > effectiveness and fulfillment of promises that is the minimum dose of surrender of > accounts. > > Subject of reflection only, given the answer of other representatives of > organizations. > > Añado which I anticipate to leave this discussion in this point, of not being compelido a > to return to participate, because neither I nor who we followed the subjects of > LACRALO in ISOC Mexico we would want to be responsible in nomeasurement for > that extends a procedural discussion more, in damage of > sustantivas. > > Buscaremos other channels to explore and to construct a collective opinion > on the subjects nouns. If there were doubt of which they canbe > excellent, a pair of examples where an opinion would be welcome > informed into the representatives of the users of Internet in > Latin America and the Caribbean is the overhaul (even audit)of > fulfillment of !
 the responsibilities of ICANN in the matter of stability, > security and robustness of DNS (SSR-RT) and the request of opinions of > NTIA of the Department of Commerce of EU on the renovation of the contract > for the operation of IANA, that many consider the subject toral of > gobernanza of Internet in the field of the "critical resources of interest". > > I cannot omit my appreciation of which the conduction of theworks of > this community in subjects as those will be far better a test of leadership > of our elect civil employees who the overhaul of the regulations stops > the duration of its positions. > > Warm greeting. > > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/ap!
 isanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linke!
 din.com/
e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza wrote: > > &gt; Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:23:07 -0300 > &gt; From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza" <andrespiazza at gmail.com> > &gt; To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> > &gt; Cc: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" > <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] 2011 election call for > LACRALO > &gt; to chair and secretariat > &gt; > &gt; Alexander, > &gt; > &gt; Necesito that you clarify east mail. > &gt; > &gt; and I explain myself. Today, positions of President and Secretary, * * do not have > &gt; legal limitation for the re-election. Nevertheless, the propose reform > e > &gt; impelled so fervent, aims to create that limitation. > &gt; > &gt; the time has pr!
 evented that we obtain the approval of thereform (although > &gt; we have been having consensus, for a year, in the points that we want to reform). > &gt; This caused that we must, fulfilling the Statutes, to make the call > &gt; that Dev made the day of yesterday, so that any candidatewho > wishes, > &gt; is pronounced like possible President or Secretary. > &gt; > &gt; This also forced to declare to us, as much Dev as I, our will > of > &gt; to continue. And as this exists, now we are ourselves surprised with the support > of > &gt; numerous organizations. They can choose not to participate from ISOC Mexico and > &gt; to avoid to pronounce itself on the individual, freely. But I do not include/understand your > &gt; democratic reference in this individual. > &gt; > &gt; Greetings, > &gt; > &gt; Andrés > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; 2011/2/25 Alexander Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> > &gt; > &gt; &gt; Andrés, > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; by our part, not even we will participate in !
 the discussion if > &gt; &gt; people who at the moment hold th!
 e positi
ons does not announce that NO > will participate > &gt; &gt; in the selection in case that the re-election is allowed. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; This one is a custom that occurs by done in many democratic means. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Viene? > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. > &gt; &gt; Dr Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > &gt; &gt; * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > &gt; &gt; * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > &gt; &gt; * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > &gt; &gt; http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > &gt; &gt; * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.o!
 rg > &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; &gt;. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza wrote: > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:43:59 -0300 > &gt; &gt; &gt; From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza" <andrespiazza at gmail.com> > &gt; &gt; &gt; To: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <admin at ttcsweb.org> > &gt; &gt; &gt; Cc: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" < > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] 2011 election call for > &gt; &gt; &gt; LACRAL > &gt; &gt; &gt; to chair and secretariat > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Thus is. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Pensaba that with the modification of the Statutes, ayear would be included of > &gt; &gt; &gt; continuity mine and of Dev, until 2012. It was still not obtained, we are advanced > and > &gt; &gt; &gt; in just a short time we !
 will be able. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; the law forces!
  to us t
o make this call, but I must confirm that I am > &gt; &gt; &gt; arranged to serve more by a year. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Greetings, > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Andrés > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; 2011/2/24 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <admin at ttcsweb.org> > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear all, >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; According to the LACRALO Operating Principles and the Rules of > Procedure >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ( >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+Organising+Documents >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;) >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the term of the president of LACRALO and the secretariat of LACRALO is >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; one to year each. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The terms of the current LACRALO president and secretariat will end on >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; April 14th, 2011 (see announcement from April 15th, 2010: >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2010/002631.html >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;) >&gt;&gt;&!
 gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The current president is Andres Piazza from AGEIA DENSI, and is >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; willing to serve to another term. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The current secretariat is Dev Anand Teelucksingh from Trinidad and >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Tobago Computer Society and is willing to serve to another term. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; While there was agreement in the run-up to the elections in 2010 to >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; having such officers serve for to two to year term, therelevant Bylaw >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; provisions have not yet been endorsed by the LACRALO membership. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Since these officers general dog only be elected by to LACRALO >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assembly, it is the intention to have to virtual assembly if there is >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; any to other representative from an accredited ALS in LACRALO who wishes >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to stand for either >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - the post of LACRALO president.!
  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; or >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - the post of LACRALO !
 secretar
iat. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; These candidates MUST email the secretariat AT admin at ttcsweb.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; within four weeks from the dates of this posting (by March 24, 2011). >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If there plows not to other candidates, then the president and secretariat >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; will be considered re-elected to serve to another to year from April 15th >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2011 and the virtual assembly would not be held. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Kind Regards, >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Dev Anand Teelucksingh >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; LACRALO Secretariat >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________ >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lac-discuss-in mailing list >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; -- >!
  &gt; &gt; &gt; * Andrés Piazza * > &gt; &gt; &gt; www.andrespiazza.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; -- > &gt; * Andrés Piazza * > &gt; www.andrespiazza.com > &gt; > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > > 
 
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