[lac-discuss-en] HEAD OF CATTLE: Geograficas Regions
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vanda at uol.com.br
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Subject: HEAD OF CATTLE: Geograficas Regions
From: vanda at uol.com.br
Considered
I want to add to this subject the experience that we had in Fellowship Program
from 2007 when we began. We had one longa discussion com members of
all the regions and we obtained a division that until today is working
very well.
a) LAC - there was no position as much of existing members as of
fellows during these years that I have suggested any change in the division
that today it is. The Caribbean & Latin America feel perfectly located in
a same region.
b) Europe - they consider the division perfect that the community accepts and that
now it reunites all of the leste.
c) the North America, although Mexico is part of the North, quedose
only com the countries Canada and the United States
d) the problem was in Asia and Africa, where we managed to divide them, traverse of
the continents like down:
· Arab community - including to all with Arab ancestry,
they in Africa or Oriente.medio esteban
· The STAN - including all those of completion - stan in English-
they afganistan, Pakistan, they turquistan, etc... that if they feel totally outside of
all the others, including India among them
· The Asians as we understand, including Japan, China,
Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapur, Thailand, Korea etc....
· Those of Sul Pacific - that include the islands that are countries
around Australia.
With this division the Fellows, during these + of 10 meetings, did notleave of
to feel represented always well.
I believe that the experience of fellows must be considered.
Hugs
Vanda Scartezini
Pole Consulting Associados
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Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions
Sergio, Carlos, Andrés,
it seems to me that the communication emitted by the members of LACRALO that
they reside in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of these participation of
You and the one of Javier Pallero.
It seems to me outside place your commentary, Sergio, in whom you are surprised of
that the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yes he is correct
to ask which adhere to the communication, but also is necessary
to ask to us what so deep is the problem. The problem must be analyzed
as a problem of the community and as a fault of leadership from
previous administration. We cannot deny that there is a situation of
exclusion, and we cannot assume it as a collective fault of the community
only, if our elect representatives and civil employees do not take care of it
of dedicated way.
The communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and returns
concrete the effects of the principles that it discusses. It is possible to mention that
Olga Cavalli participated in the processing of the report in comment like member
of the GNSO Council and surely it will be able to clarify muchof which LACRALO
need to understand better and you will be able to transmit what we need to transmit.
And in addition, that communication sample that the application of those principles
it has serious effects. Those effects are so serious that theycan take to
LACRALO division, well by a massive affiliation of the membersof
The Caribbean to NARLAO, or by a weakening or disappearance ofhis
participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base, changing it by one
active participation in the group of small states insulares, that reflects
conditions of its countries that are more determining of theirreality in subjects
of Internet that its location.
Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that you were elect, I believe that you are
forced at least a to initiate an intensive process of consultations. That
process of private and public consultations must show if thereare mechanisms and
sufficient will so that the Thin ones of the continent we workaltogether
with those of the Caribbean or if, by the opposite, it is necessary to begin to work on
a split base.
And that is due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the ICANN report
referring to the definition of geographic regions.
In my vision, a split will be a lamentable result.
SECOND POINT.
The impact of a split of this nature is ample. We would be
adding us to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that others
regions also were divided and to that organizations like a region were created,
and a THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa and a part of Means
Orient, Western Asia?
Although the report in comment does not enter these discussions, the Caribbean
it is advancing to the conclusions at which the following one had to arrive
analysis round.
The cuestionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore she is one
hard call of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation of
statu quo in our own region or a change in the same one.
Hopefully these lines serve so that Sergio and who it can summon -
INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - they make an exposition new who we pruned
to debate and to decide soon.
Warm greetings.
Alexander Pisanty
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote:
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:43:05 -0300
> From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia at internauta.org.ar>
> To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions
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> Welcome Javier!
> Thanks for your contribution and commentaries. Such they are had in
> counts. * * Warm greetings
>
> * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Asociación
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> the 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., <mailto:j.karmakiller at gmail.com>
j.karmakiller at gmail.com escribió:
> > Dear friends of the list of Mail:
> >
> >
> > is the first time that I participate! I take advantage ofto send my greetings to all.
> > My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina.
> >
> >
> > With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, is my humble one
> > opinion that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for
> > a legitimation in the uses of the UN or other organisms
> > international) is the one of the communicational practicidad within
organizacion.
> >
> >
> > Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions between
> > diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, etc
> > nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that
> > facilitates the use and understanding on the part of mayoria of
> > subject involved in ICANN.
> >
> >
> > the present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of
RIRs.
> > Habria that to stand out as is the present use that the actors of ICANN in
> > their diverse activities makes and to unify for that side.
> >
> >
> > the words is noises, and the classifications, categorias
> > communicational. That she is what but people use and she contributes to unify
> > criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a.
> >
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and
> > Society of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI
> >
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