[lac-discuss-en] HEAD OF CATTLE: Geograficas Regions

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Subject: Re: HEAD OF CATTLE: Geograficas Regions
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Dear Vanda: 
Thanks for the contribution of your experience within the Fellowship Program! ,  
the same one can help the subjects much that we are debating inthese  
days. 
A strong hug 
 
* Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association  
Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI-  
Latin American federation of Users of Internet  
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The 29/01/2011 03:46 p.m., Vanda UOL wrote: > > Considered > > Quiero to add to this subject the experience that we had in Fellowship  > Program from 2007 when we began. We had one longa discussioncom  > members of all the regions and we obtained a division that until today  > is working very well. > > a) LAC - there was no position as much of existing members as of  > fellows during these years that I have suggested any change in  > division that today is. The Caribbean & Latin America feel  > perfectly located in a same region. > > b) Europe - they consider the division perfect that the community accepts and  > that now reunites all of the leste. > > c) The North America, although Mexico is part of the North, quedose  > only com the countries Canada and the United States > > d) the problem was in Asia and Africa, where we managed to divide them,  > traverse of the continents like down: > > &middot;Arab community - including to all with Arab ancestry, they esteban  > they i!
 n Africa or Oriente.medio > > &middot;The STAN -- including all those of completion -- stan in English --  > afganistan, Pakistan, turquistan, etc... that if they feel totally  > outside of all the others, including India among them > > &middot;The Asians as we understand, including Japan, China,  > Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapur, Thailand, Korea etc.... > > &middot;Those of Sul Pacific -- that include the islands that are countries  > around Australia. > > With this division the Fellows, during these + of 10 meetings, no  > let feel represented always well. > > Creo that the experience of fellows must be considered. > > Hugs > > Vanda Scartezini > > Pole Consulting Associados > > IT Trend > > Tree-lined avenue Holy 1470 -- 1407,8 > > 01418-903 São Paulo, SP, Brazil > > Tel + 5511 3266.6253 > > Mob + 55118181.1464 > > -----Mensagem original > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org  > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome o!
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eiro of 2011 23:13 > For: presidency Argentina Internaut > Cc: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions > > Sergio, Carlos, Andrés, > > seems to me that the communication emitted by the members ofLACRALO that  > resides in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of these  > participation of You and the one of Javier Pallero. > > seems to Me outside place your commentary, Sergio, in whom you  > you surprise of which the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yes  > is correct to ask which adhere to the communication, but  > also is necessary to ask to us what so deep is the problem.  > problem must be analyzed like a problem of the community andlike  > a fault of leadership from the previous administration. We cannot  > to deny that there is an exclusion situation, and we cannot assume it like  > a collective fault of the community only, if ours  > representing and elect civil employees do not take care of it of d!
 edicated way. > > the communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and  > returns concrete the effects from the principles that it discusses. It fits  > to mention that Olga Cavalli participated in the processingof the report in  > comment as member of the GNSO Council and surely can clarify  > much which LACRALO needs to understand better and will be able to transmit  > that we need to transmit. > > and in addition, that communication sample that the application of those  > principles has serious effects. Those effects are so serious that  > can take to the LACRALO division, well by a massive affiliation  > of the members from the Caribbean to NARLAO, or by a weakening or  > disappearance of its participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base,  > changing it by an active participation in the group of states  > insulares small, that reflects conditions of its countries that are more  > determining of its reality in subjects of Internet that itslo!
 cation. > > Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that !
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 elect, I believe that  > you are forced at least a to initiate an intensive process of  > consultations. That process of private and public consultations must show  > if there is mechanisms and sufficient will so that the Thinones of  > continent we work altogether with those of the Caribbean orif, by  > opposite, is necessary to begin to work on a split base. > > and that are due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the report of  > ICANN referring to the definition of geographic regions. > > In my vision, a split will be a lamentable result. > > SECOND POINT. > > the impact of a split of this nature is ample. We would be  > adding us to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that  > other regions also were divided and to that organizations were created like  > a region, and a THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa and one  > part of the Middle East, Western Asia? > > Although the report in comment does not enter these discussions, the Caribbean  > is go!
 ing ahead to the conclusions at which it had to arrive  > following round of analysis. > > the cuestionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore it is  > a strong call of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation  > of statu quo in our own region or a change in the same one. > > Hopefully these lines serve so that Sergio and who it can summon  > - INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - makes an exposition new that  > we pruned to debate and to decide soon. > > Warm greetings. > > Alexander Pisanty > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   >. . > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn,  > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mex!
 ico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org  > * Par!
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s in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . .   >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > > &gt; Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:43:05 -0300 > > &gt; From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> > > &gt; To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions > > &gt; > > &gt; Welcome Javier! > > &gt; Thanks for your contribution and commentaries. Such they are had in > > &gt; counts. * * Warm greetings > > &gt; > > &gt; * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Asociación > > &gt; Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > &gt; Latin American Federación of Users of Internet > > &gt; <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > &gt; MSN/MSN > > &gt; YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 > > &gt; 215819 > > &gt; * > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; t!
 he 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., j.karmakiller at gmail.com  > <mailto:j.karmakiller at gmail.com> escribió: > > &gt; &gt; Dear friends of the list of Mail: > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; is the first time that I participate! I take advantage of to send my greetings a  > all. > > &gt; &gt; My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina. > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, ismy humble one > > &gt; &gt; opinion that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for > > &gt; &gt; a legitimation in the uses of the UN or other organisms > > &gt; &gt; international) is the one of the communicational practicidad within  > organizacion. > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions between > > &gt; &gt; diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, etc > > &gt; &gt; nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that > > &gt; &gt; !
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t; &gt; subject involved in ICANN. > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; the present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of  > the RIRs. > > &gt; &gt; Habria that to stand out as is the present use that theactors of ICANN in > > &gt; &gt; their diverse activities makes and to unify for that side. > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; the words is noises, and the classifications, categorias > > &gt; &gt; communicational. That she is what but people use and she contributes to unify > > &gt; &gt; criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; Greetings! > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and > > &gt; &gt; Society of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; http://linkedin.com/javierpallero > > &gt; &gt; http://javierpallero.tumblr.com > > &gt; &gt; > > &gt; &gt; sent from * > > &gt; &gt; * > > !
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