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Tue Nov 4 23:58:07 EST 2008

What's the deadline for silence = consent?
I have to liaise with TTCS to see what the rest of the organisation 
says, but my opinion is to support John Levine's nomination - he has 
been a stalwart in the At Large, he has done a lot with .mobi, they 
would like him to return as a valuable member of the community, and I 
don't see any reason that says Andres would be better at this time.
So we will need a couple of days.
Jacqueline
Carlton Samuels wrote:
> Dear Colleagues:
> I support the nomination of Andres Piazza as liaison to .mobi and have
> communicated this. But please do not forget that there were questions raised
> regarding this request that are yet to be resolved.
>
> Carlton
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> Subject: =?windows-1252?q?ALAC_2nd_Session_=96_Community =
> From: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar
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> Dear representing companions of LACRALO: podria some of you 
> to inform to us on the subjects treated in reunion of today 4 of November
> about 
> 20087 in ALAC? I have wanted to enter and to be impossible to be able to see
> me or 
> to listen to nothing in marinates acrobat. 
> On the other hand I want to propose that both representing of the LACRALO
> they take 
> like mandate the nomination of Andres Piazza to be liasson of mobi (dot 
> mobi). if nobody is against this gustaria me that silence is interpreted 
> in this ocacion as an express mandate to our representatives onthis 
> point. 
> Envio in case they do not remember our companions the final document 
> on the "politicas of participation of ICANN" (badly called "the politicas
> ones 
> of trips"), which this but down, if some of our companions 
> it needs I can send it by electronic mail or e to it pdf 
> warm greetings 
> Sergio 
>  
> POSITION OF LACRALO BEFORE THE NEW POLITICAS OF PARTICIPATION OF ICANN ( 
> BADLY TRIP CALLS POLITICAS) 
>  
> The participant organizations of the Civil Society of ICANN, we have taken 
> knowledge of the decision that has taken east organism to change the form 
> of PARTIPACION in the same one. 
>  
>  
> Who we formed part of organizations ALS we considered that 
> policy of trips has a close relationship with the participation of 
> Users of Internet in ICANN, reason why we rejected emphatically 
> decision that is that attempt to the policies and principles from ICANN and
> by 
> of Internet. 
>  
>  
> We talked about badly to called "the political ones of trips" ". 
>  
>  
>  
> We understand that this is thus, so that this in game the fact not to
> travel, 
> but the total potentiality of participation of the civil society in this 
> organism. 
>  
>  
> We are convinced that the participation in ICANN implies the interaction 
> between governments, companies and users to be able to count on an
> organization 
> that it directs the destinies of Internet in right and democratic form. 
>  
>  
> We did not conceive but in this only sense the participation of the society 
> civilian like representatives of the end users of Internet, within 
> ICANN-Consideramos that ICANN has responded until now to the expectations 
> raised, opening to the participation of the OSC like part of aprocess 
> formativo that demands the incorporation of all the actors whoparticipate 
> in the life of Internet. 
>  
>  
> Therefore, every day, is more important obtaining than others 
> organizations are gotten up in the real decision making. 
>  
>  
> If a greater participation looks for they must surpass the limitations 
> that until now they make difficult the decision making. Although in 
> the present time meetings by teleconferencing, this one means are had of 
> communication is limited as opposed to the decision making from the ALS in 
> the actual meetings according to which they arrange our statutes. 
>  
>  
> It is imperative by virtue of the search of consensuses, that ICANN looks
> for others 
> average of reduction of costs. 
>  
>  
> We understand that one of them could be to trim the costs of 
> representation of the structures of governments, since well they could 
> to support the costs of participation based on the interests of each one 
> of the countries in taking part in the global policies of communication. 
>  
>  
>  
> We are convinced that a this serious way solid and been worth of
> construction 
> policies you publish of each one of the states with respect tothe TICS, 
> prioritizing the transparency of management, economic independence,
> sovereignty 
> policy and the self-determination of the towns, like cannot bewaived norms 
> of the countries at the time of the confrontation of ideas andproposals that
> prioritize 
> the interests of all the humanity and the towns in individual. 
>  
>  
> It is important that the weakest sector is had the charge of in their
> participation, already 
> that in ICANN the fact that occurs two strong sectors participate from 
> economic (companies and governments) and one weak one (ALS), is necessary 
> to safeguard the rights of the majorities (the Users of Internet), that 
> they find as opposed to in a position of inequality the powerful ones. 
>  
>  
> The history of our region has demonstrated that the work to us between 
> different representative sectors from the democratic life, have affirmed 
> value of the plurality. 
>  
>  
>  
> We do not understand the total and pertinent participation without thethree 
> valued estates of representation are seated in equality of 
> conditions and possibilities, that is to say, a true World-wide government
> of 
> Internet with egalitarian tripartite representation, between States,
> Companies 
> and End users of Internet. 
>  
>  
> He is why we insisted on the total participation of how until now 
> we have participated and we did not resign to the rights acquired in ICANN
> by 
> the Users of Internet. 
>  
>  
>  
> They must be adopted political effective to avoid the concentration of 
> information and the decisions of the policies in ICANN. If fewhave 
> the possibility of controlling the information is not possiblea
> participation 
> total and pertinent. 
>  
>  
> We understand that the reduction in the possibility of participation of 
> End users of Internet conspire against the democratic system 
> established in ICANN. Since when restricting the plurality anddiversity that
>
> it assures the total exercise the right to the information andparticipation
> of 
> the users a scene of social injustice is caused. 
>  
>  
>  
> Those that it has more discuss and participate and those that less they have
> and more contribute 
> to the system they are outside the world of the debates and the construction
> of one 
> Internet better. 
>  
>  
> For these reasons we ratified ourselves in the search of a participation 
> egalitarian which it improves the fulfillment of the ICANN objectives and
> therefore 
> of the Users of Internet and we hoped that the decision is reverted in 
> please the real participation of the end users of Internet in this 
> structure of world-wide participation of the destinies of Internet. 
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>  
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>  
> 2008/11/2 <jam at jacquelinemorris.com> 
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