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Jacqueline A. Morris
jam at jacquelinemorris.com
Sun Nov 2 10:12:24 EST 2008
Of course, I must add that the lack of perfect translation (despite
great improvements that I thank Nick for, and am very glad that our
project to have this implemented in ICANN is finally coming to maturity
after so many long hours of work by Nick and myself to get funding for
ANY interpretation or translation) does not excuse EVERYONE from
reading or responding, as there are MANY Native English speakers and
fluent bilinguals in the LACRALO. I am glad, Sergio, that you tried to
respond, despite the lack of quality of the machine translation. I will
say, though that the machine translation is definitely better than none,
at least when it comes to my attempting to follow the discussions in
Spanish.
So - any input from the people who COULD read my post towards ideas to
have LACRALO begin to participate in ANY manner whatsover in the ICANN
Internet policy processes? There have been several idea rasied in the
breakout groups here, and I was hoping that some of us could bring some
new and innovative ideas to the table.
Jacqueline (not Jackelyn)
Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
> Dear Sergio
> As I cannot translate into Spanish, as that is not a language I have
> learnt, I hope that someone bilingual (English -Spanish) on the list
> sees and responds to your request. I presume by this request that the
> automatic translation failed?
> Jacqueline
> presidencia at internauta.org.ar wrote:
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>> Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?La_participaci=F3n_de_LACRALO_=28 =
>> =?iso-8859-1?q?carencia_de=29_publica =
>> From: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar
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>> Dear Jackelyn, I do not understand what you mean, you can be but
>> clear? the translator no he allows that comprenderte can clearly and
>> I do not want to answer before without being safe of what your you
>> say, pídele to some companion ours of Hispanic speech that translates
>> it if it is difficult for you to be able to do it.
>> I am thankful to you
>> Sergio
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>> Original Message From: <jam at jacquelinemorris.com> To:
>> <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Sunday, November 02,
>> 2008 9:20 A.M. Subject: The participation of LACRALO (deficiency of)
>> publishes
>>>> [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: The
>>>> participation of LACRALO (deficiency of) publishes > Of:
>>>> jam at jacquelinemorris.com > > Envie' the email down quoted to the
>>>> LACQUER I absolutely discuss the list does awhile. > Unfortunately,
>>>> I have still not seen any improvement in this situation, like > a
>>>> single post still has not been made to the list in anyone of >
>>>> substantivas editings of policy that I enumerated. > Nevertheless,
>>>> has been a certain discussion on the participation of ALAC minute >
>>>> procedures. > * > * Also I observe that I have not heard much on
>>>> minimum of LACRALO > participation that to me is a great question
>>>> for the discussion > dull leading of the discussion of the
>>>> participation of ALAC: > > * How little participation if LACRALO
>>>> allows before applying > internal sanctions (is to say before it
>>>> reaches the stage where ALAC > of-certificara' a ALS)? that is -
>>>> which are the minimum of LACRALO > requisite of the participation?
>>>> Observe that the !
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>> participation of ALAC minute > the requirements are in line in >
>> http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/framework.htm#minimumcriteria - > and
>> is few enough ones! > * Must have minimum requirements of the
>> participation? > * If a ALS representative is not participating, what
>> tin LACRALO does > indicates to the ALS that his representative is
>> risking his ALS perhaps > the certification and suggests strongly
>> change to the person? > > is 2 years. There is some ALSes that looks
>> like to have fallen extinguished > the Earth face since sao Paulo - I
>> have not heard, seen, obtained nobodies > indication of its existence
>> since then. I am safe that equalit maintains stops > other regions. >
>> So > More questions for the discussion: > > * Would be better to have
>> little active ALSes that one listsreleases of > the inactive ones? >
>> * How it does this affects exceed efforts - it must in great changing
>> > anyway exceeds to obtain ALSes to that it is more probable >
>> participates, and throughout these lines, how on a study to determine
>> itself > the characteristics of the organizations who have
>> participated > successfully and work on ways to anyone: > or
>> approaches and recruit more "guessed right" groups like > or creates
>> processes to obtain to all the aspirings of ALS "even guessed right >
>> way of the participation "- perhaps" a training rolls "p!
>> rogram or > a model mentoring of the organization... > > But in view
>> of the session passed over the report of the consultation of
>> Midâ?point of > the group of operation of the overhaul of committee
>> ALAC of the government of the card in > ALAC > Improvements - the
>> participation of the ALSes is an important editing in > success or
>> incident of the ALAC model, is urgent and vital that this >
>> considérese in the level of THIN. > > ICANN is an organization who is
>> fixing the policy now. LACRALO is > not to provide to the entrance of
>> information in those policies. The whole end, and > ONLY >
>> indicates, of being a ALS is to provide to the entrance of
>> information in those processes of > political. > If LACRALO does not
>> do this, later all the work that I made try to fix > for above (along
>> with Sebastian, Erick, Jacob and Pablo) would have been lost. > >
>> Now, I admit that there has been commentary and discussion many > in
>> the reasons of the deficiency of the participation in thepast!
>> , being centered mainly > around the deficiency of translation!
>> s to the
>> Spanish and Portuguese. Others > the problem is education in
>> editings. > Nevertheless, with respect to the education publishes, I
>> I would saythat they are > solved at least partially, at least of the
>> face deICANN, since there is > the information (in multiple languages
>> and filed) in most ofthese > the editings, and questions can be done
>> in the list of the discussion > clarification, explanation, etc. I
>> doubt rather that informed > the members of the list (or the
>> personnel of ICANN) to rechazaríanasistir inside > to explain the
>> most technical or darker ends (or still most basic > ends) IF IT IS
>> REQUESTED. > > With respect to the language publishes, although the
>> translations and > the interpretation is high in agenda of ICANN's,
>> are sidomuchos there of > requests of the personnel for the aid of
>> fast and dirty the community re > translations et cetera.
>> Nevertheless, there have been few public answers a > this - there
>> have been some translations of the editing community done th!
>> at > is determined interesting (based on the number of posts) ready
>> wing, > but is not many. > > Also would add that there was an
>> invitation of the personnelof ICANN (Doug and > Denise) to the
>> community to hook to a discussion on the participation, > what people
>> think she needs, require what resources. That > the invitation was
>> translated to the French and Spanish. Still it does not have been >
>> responded a. > > the LACRALO has been in place from 2006 - for THIN
>> the oldest one, that > false bitten to keep saying - we are learning,
>> we are new, we > we are > now beginning... must first the THIN one
>> not lead? > > Jacqueline To Morris > > > Jacqueline To Morris wrote:
>> > is interesting > LACRALO has not had no > discussion on the
>> list on nobodies of editings > puts to the ALAC for >
>> commentaries, for example > Fast Flux > Amendments of RAA
>> >activities of > transference of the secretary and period
>> degracia of the rescue > Improvements of GNSO > IDN > &!
>> gt; IPv6 ayunan track for ccTLDs > front operation of the D!
>> omain Na
>> me > > geographic regions > DNSSEC and the correction of the
>> envenenamiento of the DNS > > but > we has many of the
>> discussion on the reductions of the route and > selection. > >
>> what makes that opinion on interest and priorities of LACRALÓs?
>> >> Jacqueline > > > > > > > > >
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