[EURO-Discuss] Should EURALO sign a petition? Should you?

Michele Neylon - Blacknight michele at blacknight.com
Fri Feb 23 12:11:12 UTC 2018


Roberto

There’s a much deeper issue – ICANN has spent a lot of money on a load of different programmes but has very little data to measure the ROI / KPIs etc

If EURALO or anyone else wants to submit comments on the budget cuts they should be pragmatic and realistic.

There is no way that ICANN can keep spending money that it does not have.




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Michele


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From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:07
To: S Van Gelder <svg at milathan.ltd>
Cc: Euralo <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Should EURALO sign a petition? Should you?

My personal opinion is that the question is not about the budget cuts - if cuts are needed, let it be so - but how the cuts are affecting the different stakeholders. The question for me is whether the impact of the cuts on the different stakeholder groups is fair or whether there is one part of the community that is affected more than others.
Still, the question of whether a petition is in order or not holds. But on the other question, that is whether the affected communities should raise the issue, my position is “Yes, definitively”.
Andrei is right. We need data. What is the foreseeable consequence of this budget cut on internet users? My personal opinion is that in the users community most of the outreach is through the means that are now been reduced. This will simply mean that we put further obstacles to user participation. But we need more than just personal opinions if we want to build a case.
Cheers,
Roberto



On 21.02.2018, at 22:15, Stéphane Van Gelder - Milathan <svg at milathan.ltd<mailto:svg at milathan.ltd>> wrote:

Completely agree with Andrei. I oppose the signing of a petition to oppose cuts. I would add to his reasons the fact that the Board Chair and the CEO have both laid down extremely well articulated arguments for why budget cuts are needed. I would worry that a EURALO response through a petition would not only look political, it would look immature.

If we have strong arguments as to why some cuts should not happen, let’s produce them through the usual ICANN discussion channels open to us.

Thanks,

Stéphane



On 21 Feb 2018, at 21:24, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei at rol.ru<mailto:andrei at rol.ru>> wrote:

I'm against signing any petition on change.org<http://change.org/>, because it sounds political. If community  is against the cut, this must be articulated with facts, numbers and names. I don't like personnel cost increase, but this is another issue. --andrei

2018-02-21 20:06 GMT+03:00 Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com<mailto:ocl at gih.com>>:
Dear colleagues,

on yesterday's EURALO monthly call, the following Action Item was recorded.
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Olivier Crepin-Leblond<https://community.icann.org/display/%7Eolivier.crepin-leblond> Olivier to follow up on the EURALO mailing list on the suggestion from Oksana for EURALO support the petition against reduction of the ICANN fellowship as well as to write an EURALO statement against the CROP elimination.

As you know, the ICANN FY19 budget is undergoing to reduction. This will mean that some programmes are frozen, whilst others are actually reduced. The current draft of the program is showing drastic cuts in community engagement and policy. The Fellowship is being slashed, and so is the NextGen program. The Community Regional Outreach Pilot Program (CROP) which was confirmed into the main budget as it was seen as being so helpful, is being cancelled altogether. It is a terrible state of affairs, as it appears that ICANN has targeted community initiatives for outreach and engagement to a much greater extent that other programmes and the cuts, as a percentage of the budget for outreach and engagement initiatives are way larger than for other programmes.

You might has seen a petition out there, entitled "Stop the ICANN Budget Cuts and Save the Fellowship Program!"
On last night's EURALO call, Oksana Prykhodko asked whether EURALO could be inclined to sign this petition:
https://www.change.org/p/icann-stop-the-icann-budget-cuts-and-save-the-fellowship-program

The signing of a petition is highly unusual for a RALO. I can recall several occurrences of a RALO releasing its own Statement. I can also recall EURALO supporting EuroDIG as a partner - and this translates to the EURALO Chair (previously Wolf Ludwig and now yours truly) being active in the organisation of EuroDIG. If my memory serves me right, the only time EURALO has signed a Petition, might be the signature for support of NetMundial outcomes. Perhaps can Wolf help with other potential occurences?

At the end of the day, there are no rules on whether EURALO may or may not sign this petition. So the decision is in your hands, the EURALO members.

Should EURALO sign the petition?
Should your ALS sign the petition?

Kindest regards,

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
EURALO Chair

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