[EURO-Discuss] Trip to Caucasus - conclusions and recommendations

[Veni Markovski]

Oksana,
I'm sure you know the process, or you could - read the fast track manual,
see how it is. If there was a way to do it differently, it would have been
in the documents.

On Sunday, July 14, 2013, EMP wrote:

> Veni, you are absolutely right, situations with .bg and .ykp are rather
> similar (but the results are opposite). And you are ready to insist, that
> you did not see lack of trust into the level of linguistic expertize from
> ICANN regarding these issues?
>
> Best,
> Oksana
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:
>
> > Just for the record - I have not seen the "lack of trust" Oksana is
> writing
> > about "in the communit", especially I haven't seen
> >
> > "the lack of trust into ICANN in our community, of miscommunication,
> > untransperancy and unaccountability from both sides (ICANN and Ukrainian
> > applicant for .ykp)."
> >
> > I have seen different people unhappy about different aspects of what they
> > think ICANN should be doing, and I have seen people unhappy with the IDN
> > fast track (shall I mention .bg IDN?). But that's different from the
> words,
> > used by Oksana. If there has been miscommunication, please, let the
> > regional VPs know about it. Likewise, if you believe ICANN has done or
> > hasn't done something, esp. if required by our policies, let us (me and
> > Nigel) know.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Veni,
> > VP, GSE.
> >
> > On Sunday, July 14, 2013, EMP wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Roberto,
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your reports and especially for all your
> > > recommendations. You extremely clear identify major problems for
> > > understanding the role and mission of ICANN in post-Soviet space.
> > >
> > > 1. Regional issue.
> > >
> > > I would like to repeat again and again, that there is " wide
> unhappiness"
> > > not only  "in the South Caucasus (Armenia, Azerbaijan,
> > > Georgia) about being considered in the Asia-Pacific-Australasia region"
> > > instead of being included into the European region, but also in other
> > > East-European countries (for example, in Ukraine). Being in one team
> can
> > > help us much more easy to overcome post-totalitarian past, to promote
> > > multistakeholderism, to defend freedom and openness of Internet.
> > >
> > > I fully support your propositions and final report of ICANN Geographic
> > > Regions Working Group (which is written in extremely balanced manner
> and
> > > does not demand any immediate seismic shakes, but provides a lot of
> > > opportunities for self-identification). And I will be happy if ALAC
> will
> > > support this final report.
> > >
> > > 2. IDNs.
> > >
> > > My obsession with Ukrainian IDN cost  me a lot, nevertheless I am
> > insisting
> > > on the importance of this issue. This is the best example of the lack
> of
> > > trust into ICANN in our community, of miscommunication, untransperancy
> > and
> > > unaccountability from both sides (ICANN and Ukrainian applicant for
> > .ykp).
> > > I highly appreciate Rinalia and Sebastien interest to this problem,
> and I
> > > have to say, that, with their help,  we had a lot of progress regarding
> > > this issue.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, IDNs (and ccTLDs at the first place) have to be in center
> > of
> > > At-Large attention. I proposed to oblige ICANN staff to inform all
> > national
> > > representatives within ICANN (ALSes, GAC representatives, members of
> > ccNSO
> > > and gNSO and so on) directly about any question of special concern for
> > > their country or region. I was said that it would be discussed in
> Durban.
> > > If I have to make now any further official steps to push this
> initiative
> > > forward, please let me know.
> > >
> > > Outreach - 1
> > >
> > > Roberto wrotes:
> > >
> > > ALAC is present with ALSes in very few of these countries, and
> completely
> > > absent in all the "stans". This is related to the situation about human
> > > rights, government control, freedom of press, and so on. However,
> aren't
> > we
> > > in a vicious circle? In other words, which is the cause and which is
> the
> > > effect? Had we some active users organizations, wouldn't these be able
> to
> > > influence the government?
> > >
> > > This is extremely important question for countries without democratic
> > > traditions, grass-root activities and culture of active civic
> > > participation. And it's a pity that I couldn't participate in your
> > meeting
> > > in Durban. I will resend your letter to Dmitry Kokhmanjuk, ccTLD .ua
> > > administrator (member of ccNSO), who is now in Durban. I hope he can
> > > provide you with  a lot of information. And I am happy to invite you to
> > > ENOG VI ( <http://www.enog.org/meetings/enog-6/>



-- 
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Veni
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