[EURO-Discuss] R: Decertification of EURALO ALSes

Tue Jun 3 16:11:14 UTC 2014

Hello,

just for clarification: the problem of some not-responding ALSes didn't bump up just recently but was discussed over the last 3 years when these ALSes were listed and known as problem cases already! Anybody could have stepped in and help to push them -- what was repeatedly done by myself without any response over years. Don't tell me that anybody who WANTS "to be heard" is not getting a chance of being heard at EURALO.

If you take the time and read the reasons specified to each candidate and case (see attached PDF - all done in my free time BTW), you will see that they got their chance "to be heard" and to respond to it.

Best,
Wolf

EMP wrote Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:54:
>Dear Werner,
>
>Thank you very much for your answer. I fully support your position -  "in
>my view, any organization
>whose exclusion is pre see, should get a chance to be heard", and I did my
>best to initiate ANY discussion at least.
>
>Keep in touch,
>Best regards,
>Oksana
>
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:46 PM, "W. Hülsmann (DVD e.V.)" <
>huelsmann at datenschutzverein.org> wrote:
>
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>> Dear Oksana,
>>
>> I met members of Terre de Femmes at various events. If I had known
>> that wolf is looking for them, I would have been able to ask them
>> directly.
>>
>> But since I have read it only a few days ago, I could only tell him
>> the official office address. I know this is not so much help. But more
>> than a side note, it should not be. And I did not want to initiate a
>> discussion about it already. However, in my view, any organization
>> whose exclusion is pre see, should get a chance to be heard.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Werner
>>
>> Am 03.06.2014 13:13, schrieb EMP:
>> > Dear Werner,
>> >
>> > Do you know anybody from TERRE DES FEMMES e. V in person?
>> >
>> > Is it possible for you to contact them directly?
>> >
>> > Best regards, Oksana
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:11 PM, EMP <info at euromediaplatform.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Olivier,
>> >>
>> >> I completely share your vision!
>> >>
>> >> "The RALO leadership ... needs to push forward with the active
>> >> ALSes in making sure the region's voices are heard".
>> >>
>> >> Best regards, Oksana
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM, TaC International <
>> >> contact at againstcybercrime.eu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Olivier,
>> >>>
>> >>> I completely share your vision and of course all my support to
>> >>> Wolf, Best regards, Yuliya
>> >>>
>> >>> Le 03.06.2014 12:45, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :
>> >>>
>> >>> +1
>> >>>>
>> >>>> After the At-Large Summit, RALOs will be solicited much more
>> >>>> in obtaining end user input. The RALO leadership cannot spend
>> >>>> its time looking for lost sheep. It needs to push forward
>> >>>> with the active ALSes in making sure the region's voices are
>> >>>> heard. Kind regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Olivier
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 03/06/2014 11:18, William Drake wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I strongly agree with Roberto here and support Wolf’s
>> >>>>> stance.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Bill
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Roberto Gaetano
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I strongly support Wolf.
>> >>>>>> I believe that it is not incumbent on the Chair to run
>> >>>>>> after members who show little interest in participating:
>> >>>>>> he is spending enough time in coordinating the work of
>> >>>>>> the members who do participate, in order to get results
>> >>>>>> for the benefit of ALAC. Cheers, R.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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