[EURO-Discuss] PROPOSED TELECONFERENCE

Thu May 3 16:28:18 EDT 2007

Jeannette:

It shouldn't be too difficult, if anyone is unable to attend, for them
to state their preference on the few topics at hand. For example,
nothing is preventing anyone from saying what number of directors they
believe to be optimal.

Those on the call could also suggest, for example, that one of the
items to be voted on in the vote to be held is the number of total
board seats.

So, using that example, one could have a ballot with:

1) A selection showing numbers between 5 and 9 (for example). The
number with the largest number of supporters would be the number of
total board seats.

2) A selection for two preferences for the ALAC seats

3) A ranking for each of the candidates, with the top x vote getters
('x' being the number chosen by the ballot in (1), being those chosen
for the available board seats.

This process has gone considerably over the timeframe agreed in Lisbon.

I would ask everyone to show flexibility and understand something very
important:

The ALAC members need to be chosen with AT LEAST one month to go -
and, really, six weeks - before the Lisbon meeting - for airline
tickets to be purchased in good time to avoid unnecessary expense. We
do not have extra budget funds this year to spend because a decision
on selecting two candidates from a field of three candidates took a
great amount of time - we've suffered a budget reduction. The other
reason that the choice needs to be made - sooner, not later - is so
that those chosen can have time to arrange their affairs to attend the
Puerto Rico meeting.

Others may say what they will - it appears to me that the discussions
have reached a point where there are no other candidates, yet, we have
too many candidates for the board to be of any reasonable size in
comparison to the total size of the ALS community.  I hope everyone
will not invest too much time and energy in how many board seats there
are - the community is quite small enough to actually discuss most
important questions directly.

I draw everyone's attention to the fact that no other region has more
than two officers. EURALO is going to have at least five.  So, the
question of how many seats needs an answer. Reasonable timeframes for
holding the vote also need to be decided.

On 03/05/07, Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu> wrote:
> I was asking for abstaining from binding decisions.
>
>  From Nicks's agenda:
>
> "If nobody else will propose an agenda, what I would suggest as a draft is:
>
> [...]
>
> We would then bring the results of these items back to the list, not
> for review, but as decisions."
>
> jeanette
>
> Rudi Vansnick wrote:
> > As far as I can read in the agenda proposed by Nick, there is no voting
> > tomorrow.
> > There for I see no reason for further delay. We have already been
> > discussing items and topics which were very clear and had enough
> > timespan being read by everyone considering the EURALO kick-off in
> > priority of some other work.
> >
> > I had also to organise myself in order to participate in what I consider
> > being an important item in the agenda of *my daily work for the Internet
> > community, listening to all and any Internet individual user.*
> >
> > rudi
> >
> > Jeanette Hofmann schreef:
> >> Hi,
> >> if it is indeed true that many ALs cannot participate tomorrow, it would
> >> be good to restrain from taking binding decisions.
> >>
> >> As the decisions taken in Lisbon have shown, it can somewhat poison the
> >> atmosphere if those physically present make decisions that don't reflect
> >> the preferences of those absent. For this very reason, IETF working
> >> groups don't vote in physical meetings or teleconferences, they use
> >> mailing lists for polls and the like to ensure that all interested
> >> parties have a chance to participate.
> >>
> >> jeanette
> >>
> >>
> >> Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
> >>
> >>> >From the email replies sent to the list, this time and date were the
> >>> best - more people could do this time and date than any of the others
> >>> - which is why we set it that way.
> >>>
> >>> If nobody else will propose an agenda, what I would suggest as a draft is:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Discuss and agree the list of candidates - including whether or not
> >>> to include candidates who were proposed after the deadline.
> >>>
> >>> 2) Discuss and agree the total number of board seats for this election cycle.
> >>>
> >>> 3) Discuss and agree the length of the voting, the start date, and the
> >>> provisional list of voters and the number of days for ALSes not on the
> >>> call to provide their authorised voter.
> >>>
> >>> We would then bring the results of these items back to the list, not
> >>> for review, but as decisions.
> >>>
> >>> I will put this up on the Wiki as the *DRAFT* agenda which all ALSes
> >>> may then edit or extend - so we have something to start from.
> >>>
> >>> On 03/05/07, Annette Muehlberg <annette.muehlberg at web.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> All,
> >>>> concerning the tel conf tomorrow: Many people said they cannot take part (myself offered a different time, one and a half hours earlier). Rudi and myself asked what it is about, as no one proposed an agenda yet. I proposed to discuss all issues online. I guess, the best is, that those who actually have the chance in taking part come up with a proposal for procedure which will be presented to all of us online.
> >>>> best
> >>>> annette
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Rudi Vansnick schrieb:
> >>>>
> >>>>> This fits for me ... if at least we will have a clear agenda and no
> >>>>> discussions about what is NOT written/signed in MoU and Bylaws.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rudi Vansnick
> >>>>> Chair ISOC Belgium
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
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