[At-Large] DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but not others?

bzs at theworld.com bzs at theworld.com
Sat Sep 16 04:34:50 UTC 2023


I would have to sit down and read the text and hear the arguments but
they seem like reasonable proposals from your description. I suppose
at this point it's not a good use of time.

On September 15, 2023 at 12:58 carlton.samuels at gmail.com (Carlton Samuels) wrote:
 > If you missed it, after a year in pending status, the ICANN Board just voted to
 > reject Recs 14 & 15 from the CCT Review.  These were offered for
 > mitigating systemic DNS security abuse. 
 >  
 > #14 recommends amendments offering incentives - inclusive of financial ones -
 > in the [RA/RAA] Agreements for the contracted parties adopting proactive
 > anti-abuse measures. Nothing too heretical. 
 > 
 > #15 recommends amendments to [RA/RAA] Agreements that establish thresholds of
 > abuse at which compliance inquiries are automatically triggered and a higher
 > one at which registrars and registries are presumed to be in default of their
 > agreements. 
 > 
 > We went on to recommend a community-developed DNS Abuse Dispute Resolution
 > Policy (DADRP) if ICANN Compliance falls asleep on the enforcement job. [The
 > text delicately eased into that like only "...if the community determines that
 > ICANN org itself is ill-suited or unable to enforce such provisions."] 
 > 
 > In my own view #14 is something regulators do with concessionaires time and
 > again. Even the "light touch and by suasion" telecoms ones I know well in my
 > home region. 
 > 
 > Our ICANN don't play that!
 > 
 > Carlton   
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 > 
 > On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 20:33, Barry Shein via At-Large <
 > at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
 > 
 > 
 >     As a company which provides email and other internet services maybe if
 >     the new gTLDs agreements included some serious commitment to avoid
 >     allowing the use of these gTLDs for massive spamming and phishing etc
 >     maybe the service providers would have been more enthusiastic about
 >     acceptance.
 > 
 >     Unfortunately the opposite is true and many of these new gTlDs can
 >     safely be blocked in entirety, they just spew spam etc, with no
 >     customer complaints.
 > 
 >     I'll guess these new gTLD registrars/registries would complain that's
 >     not equitable since it's not required of other TLDs.
 > 
 >     Which is all a very nice argument to make sitting in an airless room
 >     somewhere.
 > 
 >     So instead they tend to get blocked and ignored, or at least marked
 >     "suspicious" by spam filters, but equitably!
 > 
 >     If I had a nickel for every ISP who said or recommended "oh just block
 >     all .pick-a-nGTLD, you and your customers will be happier"...
 > 
 >     --
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