[At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
Marita Moll
mmoll at ca.inter.net
Wed May 12 23:19:02 UTC 2021
Ind. users might not distinguish the Internet from Facebook -- but they
might relate to governance and the role they think they should play in
the governance of the Internet. Could that be a starting point?
Marita
On 5/12/2021 3:46 PM, Jonathan Zuck wrote:
> Thanks Marita. At some point, down the road, we'll need help a survey
> firm identify the "population," from which to draw a random sample to
> survey. This will be guided by the kind of questions we want to ask so
> THAT is the first task. What would we like to hear from individual
> users on?
>
> Jonathan Zuck
> Executive Director
> Innovators Network Foundation
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> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
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> The Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA) which operates
> the .ca domain name does occasional outreach exercises to calibrate
> their community investment program. The link below goes to such a
> recent survey which went out to recipients of this grant. The
> description of this survey group come pretty close to the end users we
> are looking for. Maybe we could take some guidance from this:
>
> https://www.cira.ca/resources/state-internet/report/gap-between-us-perspectives-building-a-better-online-canada
> <https://www.cira.ca/resources/state-internet/report/gap-between-us-perspectives-building-a-better-online-canada>
>
> In January and February 2018, CIRA reached out to organizations across
> Canada through a survey, phone interviews and video interviews to help
> identify key issues, needs and funding gaps with respect to internet
> infrastructure, digital access, digital literacy and funding gaps. In
> particular, CIRA sought out grassroots organizations and individuals
> working in and around Canada’s internet, including not-for-profits,
> charities, academics and small internet service providers. The survey
> CIRA shared with organizations in Canada sought to learn more about
> their perspectives, experiences and challenges. Follow-up interviews
> were conducted with some participants.
>
> Marita
>
>
> On 5/12/2021 2:34 PM, Evan Leibovitch via At-Large wrote:
>>
>> I really, REALLY, encourage people to read the actual funding request
>> before seeing the word "poll" and "At-Large" together and jumping to
>> conclusions.
>>
>> The request is *NOT* for a survey of RALOs or ALSs or anyone else in
>> the existing ICANN community. This request is for a form of R&D never
>> before done by ALAC.
>>
>> It is explicitly designed to avoid the usual channels that have
>> already been done, and to talk to the rest of the world outside the
>> ICANN bubble -- the end-users that ALAC is bylaw-bound to speak for.
>> We need to hear from people who have never even heard the terms
>> "ICANN" or "DNS" or "Internet domain" -- let alone know what they are
>> -- yet are deeply impacted by what goes on here. We don't need them
>> to join an ALS or even care about ICANN, but we do need to know their
>> opinions of how DNS policies and practises affect their use and trust
>> of the Internet.
>>
>> The funding request identifies the flaws in surveys that have been
>> done to date, and ideally would ask questions of random samples of
>> people *everywhere*.
>>
>> In these cases the cost of the survey is very much determined by how
>> spread it is. Given the amount of the funding at play we can't come
>> close to "everywhere" so we need to work on what limited (but still
>> random) scope will best provide useful analysis.
>>
>> If anyone here is aware of any studies such as Vanda suggests that
>> could help this effort, now is the time to identify them.
>>
>> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
>> @evanleibovitch / @el56
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 12:49, Vanda Scartezini via At-Large
>> <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanking to Leon to embrace such effort, I am the one encouraging
>> this survey in all regions, worldwide survey. The cost of survey
>> is not how spread it is, regional or universal to collect the
>> data, but to build the right questions, analyze the answers and
>> then present the statistically relevant data with a large annex
>> with the methodology used for such analysis.
>>
>> And yes, depending on the data there are several studies we could
>> use, or even just comparing with data we collect.
>>
>> Ralos can be used to spread the survey inside their regions.
>>
>> Hope we can do such survey.
>>
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>> *Date: *Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 13:21
>> *To: *Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org <mailto:evan at telly.org>>
>> *Cc: *Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org <mailto:greg at isoc-ny.org>>,
>> 'At-Large Worldwide' <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>> *Subject: *Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
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>> Thanks Evan. Just confirming that I am following the discussion
>> and that the project will have my support. I will try to
>> encourage other Board colleagues to do the same.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> León
>>
>>
>>
>> El 11 may 2021, a las 10:05, Evan Leibovitch via At-Large
>> <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> escribió:
>>
>> Does a global survey is more expensive in terms of
>> bandwidth costs than a regional pilot?
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Is "Does it cost more to do a global survey than a regional
>> one?" a useful question?
>>
>> I would especially like to hear from those who helped support
>> Jonathan in identifying the problem and making the original
>> request. Responding that we need to have a strategic approach
>> to determining what we want to learn from this effort, and
>> then conducting the research based on that strategy, is
>> rather stating the obvious at this point.
>>
>> The proposal is not final; it still needs to be approved by
>> the Board. I encourage Leon and Avri to support, and even
>> advocate this when it comes on their agenda. IMO this
>> proposal is more than just a funded project; its approval
>> would be an unprecedented level of confidence in At-Large's
>> ability to engage in its own research, ask its own questions,
>> and perform its own analysis. Personally I have always felt
>> that this is the only form of "outreach" that actually helps
>> ALAC to perform its bylaw mandate. If granted it will be
>> vital to deliver something useful, even if limited in scope
>> to accommodate the resources available.
>>
>> To everyone who is interested in contributing meaningfully to
>> this effort -- assuming it is approved -- please start giving
>> some thought to the strategy of what we want from this. Once
>> there is consensus on that I think the questions will flow
>> naturally.
>>
>> Also consider that, depending on what we want from this
>> effort, some of the raw research may already exist and be
>> available for purchase. We're not the only ones who want to
>> know the utility, safety and reliability of methods of how
>> the public finds content and services on the Internet.
>>
>> - Evan
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