[At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05

Thu May 6 05:53:39 UTC 2021

Maureen,

absolutely. 90% of the work should go into the problem definition.

Alejandro Pisanty

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
wrote:

> And that it is meaningful to both ICANN and the At-Large Community...
>
> But starting a good discussion..  :)
>
> M
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:37 PM Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Don't focus on the nature of the survey (self-selected or otherwise) nor
>> anything else (need for a firm etc.) - before wasting anybody's time and
>> energy, start with a question whose answer is not yet known and is relevant
>> to a decision to be made. So, what is the decision that needs to be made?
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:11 PM Jonathan Zuck <
>> JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
>>
>>> We really need to hire a survey firm to develop a worthwhile sample. We
>>> shouldn't be attempting an end user survey with Survey Monkey where people
>>> self select. We should only use Survey Monkey with people already in
>>> our radar.
>>>
>>> Whether there is a well-defined question that can only be answered by
>>> survey remains to be seen. That's the exercise here.
>>>
>>> Jonathan Zuck
>>> Executive Director
>>> Innovators Network Foundation
>>> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org
>>> Main: +1 (202) 827-7594
>>> Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 5, 2021 11:00:25 PM
>>> *To:* Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
>>> *Cc:* Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large list <
>>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> is there a well-defined question that cannot be answered except by a
>>> survey?
>>>
>>> Is the budget there for the design of the survey, segmentation, etc.
>>> before the first line of surveymonkey is written? What is the project? What
>>> decision will be fed by the answer to the survey?
>>>
>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:48 PM Jonathan Zuck via At-Large <
>>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> We probably start with the CCTRT surveys and see what areas might bear
>>> further examination.
>>>
>>> Jonathan Zuck
>>> Executive Director
>>> Innovators Network Foundation
>>> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org
>>> Main: +1 (202) 827-7594
>>> Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:10:48 PM
>>> *To:* Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
>>> *Cc:* Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large list <
>>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>;
>>> Joanna Kulesza <jkuleszaicann at gmail.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
>>>
>>> Thank you Jonathan..
>>>
>>> After ATLASIII I had hoped that we might have had enough interest and
>>> capacity to establish a research group, but it never eventuated. I guess
>>> because there wasn't anyone to drive them towards a particular purpose as
>>> there is now.
>>>
>>> So what is it that you are particularly after so that we can gather some
>>> ideas from  other like-minded individuals, about what is out there that
>>> could be useful to us, if that's what we need to do.
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jonathan Zuck via At-Large <
>>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> We took.a shot and hoped for more, but its a start. We have to find a
>>> way to make good use of it. We can't mount a worldwide survey with that
>>> much and we SHOULD not do a stupid self selection survey. That leaves two
>>> options: piggyback or pilot. Global surveys are historically rare but have
>>> become more frequent with COVID. With $50k, we might get a few questions
>>> added to something already being fielded. Alternatively,  we focus on a
>>> particular geographic region and language and see if we can get valuable
>>> enough data to get further funds. We'll definitely have to give it some
>>> thought. Another committee.  Sigh.
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> Jonathan Zuck
>>> Executive Director
>>> Innovators Network Foundation
>>> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org
>>> Main: +1 (202) 827-7594
>>> Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf
>>> of Evan Leibovitch via At-Large <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:08:18 PM
>>> *To:* Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large list <
>>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>> *Subject:* [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
>>>
>>> Regarding ICANN's allocation of resources in support of end-user
>>> polling by and for ALAC
>>> <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=151847258&preview=/151847258/164626907/FY22%20ABR%20Process_Assessment%20Report_FINAL.pdf>
>>> :
>>>
>>> To Heidi who advanced this request
>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/ALAC+-+FY22+Additional+Budget+Requests?preview=/151847210/158139112/FY22%20Community%20Request%20-%20Polling%5B1%5D.docx>
>>> within ICANN, and to all who had a part of creating it, a heartfelt and
>>> personal thank you.
>>>
>>> I am extremely heartened by the allocation of funds for survey-based
>>> research to support and drive ALAC's ongoing work. Some of you may have
>>> seen my participation in At-Large mailing lists complaining about the lack
>>> of such resources, and now here they are. I have no idea whether my
>>> contributions played any role in development of this formal request of
>>> which I was not aware, but regardless I am sincerely appreciative of the
>>> significant effort that I know has gone into creating and advancing the
>>> request.
>>>
>>> So now is the time to deliver, now that the opportunity is at hand. I
>>> have no idea what kind of sub-group and/or what ALAC support staff will be
>>> tasked to turn this approval into a detailed plan; I am at the service of
>>> whatever mechanism will be used. I hope to be useful to this process and
>>> make a positive contribution for the first time in a long time.
>>>
>>> And, again, thank you to all involved.
>>>
>>> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
>>> @evanleibovitch / @el56
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>>      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>> Facultad de Química UNAM
>> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>> +525541444475
>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
>> Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
>> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
>> ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
>> .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
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     Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
Facultad de Química UNAM
Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
+525541444475
Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
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