[At-Large] U.S. seizure of .ORG domain name

Antony Van Couvering avc at namesatwork.com
Wed Feb 2 22:30:32 UTC 2011


I would support this as well.  


On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote:

> I would support this.
> 
> Btw, the USG has used similar tactics to take down domains that are used for
> online gaming centred on Antigua in the Caribbean .  Online gaming is legal
> in Antigua but it matters not to US interests.
> 
> Antigua has sought relief at the WTO on areas of WTO jurisdiction and she
> has repeatedly prevailed.  Still has not mattered to our Uncle Sam.
> 
> Carlton
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> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> 
>> I propose the At Large/ALAC  protest the U.S. government's seizure of
>> domain name Rojadirecta.org.
>> 
>> Rojadirecta is a popular sports streaming and P2P download site.
>> Rojadirecta is a legitimate Spanish business. Two Spanish courts have
>> ruled the site operates legally.
>> 
>> It seems the U.S. Government Homeland Security's Immigration and
>> Customs Enforcement (ICE) division  used the TLD as the means of
>> seizure in an attempt to take down the site.  If the action was
>> against the registrar then a registrant would at least have a choice
>> of jurisdiction.  But this action on ORG, and the actions on .COM
>> names last November essentially means the U.S. government considers
>> COM, NET and ORG to be nothing more than ccTLDs subject to U.S. whim
>> (this isn't a legal action, there has been no court case, no due
>> process.)
>> 
>> Rojadirecta is now available under other TLDs
>> <http://www.rojadirecta.me> <http://www.rojadirecta.es>
>> <http://www.rojadirecta.in> as well its original IP address
>> <http://109.235.53.189/>.
>> 
>> Expect there will be a lot written about this, this article's ok as a
>> starting point:
>> <
>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110201/10252412910/homeland-security-seizes-spanish-domain-name-that-had-already-been-declared-legal.shtml
>>> 
>> 
>> I hope At Large will issue a statement protesting the use of the TLD
>> registry as a means of takedown. That it recommends when the NET, ORG
>> and COM contracts are renegotiated they should move to a jurisdiction
>> where such unilateral action by a government is not possible.  That
>> the new applicant guidebook require applicants to only locate in
>> jurisdictions where such unilateral action by a government is not
>> possible.
>> 
>> Legitimate businesses should not be subject to the whim of a U.S. agency.
>> 
>> Adam
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