[APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO Individual Representative

Mon Jul 8 09:37:19 UTC 2019

Hi

The issue was resolved the same day (4 July 2019), when the APRALO
leadership team decided to create a WG on Membership-related matters to
ensure that similar situations do not occur in the future. Please take a
look at the mail for more details.

With kind regards

satish

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 4:20 PM Fariz Ahmadi <farizahmadi at protonmail.com>
wrote:

> Satish
>
> Post your email I and other community members were expecting to hear back
> on the serious issue raised. I am surprised why it’s taking so long to take
> necessary decisions and suitable actions. Strongly believe that no would
> like to promote such acts here or will support any such candidate who was
> completely unethical. The excuse of newcomer given by Mili is not
> admissible for hiding something so critical when you are applying for such
> position thus all consideration done for her must be plummeted with no
> further delay
>
> Fariz Ahmadi
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 7:05 PM, Satish Babu <sb.inapp at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Fariz and all
>
> Thank you for your inputs on this matter.
>
> Several important points have emerged in these discussions, with legal
> (ie., concerning the APRALO Rules of Procedure) as well as ethical
> dimensions.
>
> I'd like to discuss this matter with the rest of the APRALO Leadership
> Team and also with Maureen, so that we can decide on a fair way to address
> these concerns and then get back to all of you.
>
> With kind regards,
>
>
>
>
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>
> satish
>
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> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 6:32 PM Fariz Ahmadi <farizahmadi at protonmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Neeraj and Azadur
>>
>> This is something very serious which you must immediately discuss
>> with Samiran Gupta Head of India ICANN and Satish Babu Chair Asia-Pacific
>> Regional At-Large Organization (APRALO, ASIAPAC) I am connecting you with
>> them in this email. Also the complaint for all these acts must also go to
>> ICANN president and chairman so directing for necessary disciplinary
>> action.
>> Thanks
>> Farizahmadi
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 6:18 PM, Azadur Rahman sarker <
>> azad.sarkar.tvnl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am also agree with mr. neeraj kumar statement . Thanks. Azad. BANGLADESH
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Jul 2019, 18:42 Neeraj Kumar, <neerajkumarindia at outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It seems that Ms Mili Semlani has misrepresented in the ICANN 66
>>> fellowship application as well. She has got ICANN Fellowship as
>>> representing herself from India but it seems she actually lives in
>>> Singapore as evident in her Linkedin & Facebook profiles.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Neeraj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* APAC-Discuss <apac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on
>>> behalf of danny dong <dannydong at tech-center.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 5:56 PM
>>> *To:* Shreedeep Rayamajhi
>>> *Cc:* APAC-Discuss; ncuc-ap at lists.ncuc.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO
>>> Individual Representative
>>>
>>>
>>> I also come to an agreement that excuse of newcomer given by Mili is not
>>> admissible for hiding something so critical when you are applying for such
>>> position. If I am not wrong as per ICANN operative procedure and code of
>>> ethics any candidate doing such act is immediately disqualified. So her
>>> selection is against the norms.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Danny
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 03, 2019 at 3:28 PM
>>> *From:* "Shreedeep Rayamajhi" <weaker41 at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* "Fariz Ahmadi" <farizahmadi at protonmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* APAC-Discuss <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>,
>>> ncuc-ap at lists.ncuc.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO
>>> Individual Representative
>>> I completely agree with the argument of  farizahmadi and some what
>>> suport  maureen but what i see is the problem as a whole.
>>>
>>> 1. Young leaders who are coming to the position are confused or are not
>>> prepapared or they have no idea about the constituencies,: we need better
>>> capacity and awarness program
>>> 2. The constituencies should have definite criteria for nomination such
>>> as  involvment and enagegment within the community as a compulsory clause
>>> for election purpose
>>> 3. Our mentoring or information dessimination is not working properly
>>> 4. The message that the community  is about enagement and work not about
>>> leadership position needs to be clear
>>> 5. Newcommers Enrollment programs needs to be further improvised
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Shreedeep Rayamajhi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 1:56 PM Fariz Ahmadi via APAC-Discuss <
>>> apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Maureen
>>>
>>> I completely agree with what you said but totally disagree to what you
>>> think that if she is NEW so she is allowed to break all rules laid for
>>> groups by ICANN, it’s a community driven organization and basic foundation
>>> is TRUST. Which she has broken by hiding the facts to achieve this
>>> position. We should not set such examples for other else in future everyone
>>> will follow same.
>>>
>>> It my individual views and I trust other members and chairs in both
>>> groups will also agree with it.
>>> Thanks
>>> Farizahmadi
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:31 PM, Maureen Hilyard <
>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your comment Fariz.
>>>
>>> However, I think that if you were to look within At-Large you will find
>>> that we have people who have their feet in one or two other sections of the
>>> ICANN community. We are trying to break down the silos and trying to work
>>> together a lot more so that we can further our understanding about the
>>> different interests that each community section serves.
>>>
>>> Mili is new to our system but eager to learn more about ICANN. NCUC
>>> offers an opportunity for a voice for the Asia Pacific region and I admire
>>> that she has opted for a leadership role that will heighten the views of
>>> the Asia Pacific in a section where that view is lacking but also a section
>>> that At-Large has been working with for some time to build better relations
>>> and understandings. What Mili has also done is to enable another At-Large
>>> member to join the leadership ranks. Welcome to Hanan Khatib.
>>>
>>> Just as others who work with other sections of iCANN because it is their
>>> day job, yet continue to join the At-Large CPWG and bring the perspective
>>> of their other community to our conversations, I am sure that Mili too will
>>> be able to bring a NCUC view to our discussions and vice versa.  We must
>>> celebrate her decision which I know she feels will give the better value
>>> for At-Large.
>>>
>>> Maureen
>>> ALAC Chair
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:43 PM Fariz Ahmadi via APAC-Discuss <
>>> apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I wish to seriously add something here and its flag for both NCUC and At
>>> Large and even other groups of ICANN.
>>>
>>> I completely disagree with the point given by Mili and I would say it
>>> was completely unethical act at her part. We chose her the voice of APRALO
>>> individual members with lot of trust and respect.
>>>
>>> But she inspite of knowing the fact that when anyone apply for any
>>> position he/she has to declare any conflict of interest. But she kept NCUC
>>> and At Large in dark and given false statement by hiding the facts that she
>>> is already on one position she cannot hold leadership position in an
>>> different ICANN constituencies simultaneously until she first step down
>>> from first and then apply for another.
>>>
>>> This is completely unethical at her part that she try to play safe by
>>> retaining position here and additionally applying in NCUC so that incase if
>>> she don’t get selected their she atleast have one.
>>>
>>> *I totally not accept such acts by any individuals here in NCUC and At
>>> Large and request that her nominations and positions should be cancelled
>>> with immediate effect as its clearly a non-comprisable and acceptable act.*
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Farizahmadi
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Mili <milisemlani at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>>> *Cc:* Satish Babu via APAC-Discuss <apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> >
>>> *Subject: *Re: [APAC-Discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT: Change in 2019 APRALO
>>> Individual Representative
>>> *Date:* 02 Jul 2019 08:38:16 PM
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>   I am deeply humbled and extremely grateful that you chose me to be the
>>> voice of APRALO individual members. But I have to say this with a heavy
>>> heart that I will not be able to continue with this role as I am elected as
>>> NCUC EC for APAC. As a relative newcomer to ICANN, I was not aware of the
>>> conflict in interest both these positions lead to (as one cannot hold
>>> leadership position in an different ICANN constituencies simultanoeusly). I
>>> apologise for not keeping up with the trust you all have vested in me.
>>>
>>> But I hope you understand my reasons for doing so:
>>>
>>> 1. *NCUC and At Large are like cousins in the ICANN ecosystem*. For
>>> those of you who may not know, NCUC too protects and voices the issues of
>>> the end users, registrants (who are majorly internet end users too. But
>>> while our TG groups are aligned, both operate at different levels in the
>>> ICANN ecosystem and policy development process. *NCUC has very few
>>> representatives from the Asia Pacific *
>>> *region* (let alone leaders)and  while I would like to retain your
>>> membership of APRALO and At-Large I also believe that *increasing the
>>> Asia Pacific voice within NCUC is very important at this time*, even
>>> while being pulled by my loyalty to At-Large.
>>>
>>> 2. Also as a continuing individual member of APRALO (which is still
>>> allowed) I believe I could *encourage the continued relationship
>>> building between At-Large and the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG)* and
>>> would support and be actively engaged in the joint activities that have
>>> already been established between At-Large and NCUC and NPOC. APRALO and
>>> At Large may also *benefit from a staunch At-Large supporter in NCUC,
>>> thus reinstate the voice of end users and particularly from APAC.*
>>>
>>> 3. While *my engagement and support for APRALO will in no way reduce*,
>>> if anything, it will *only enhance my understanding of policy
>>> development* and open yet another avenue for us to support out regions
>>> issues. This dilemma and my decision to withdraw from my first and recently
>>> elected position and to move on and become the best representative for
>>> APRALO on the Executive Committee at Non-Commercial Users Constituency
>>> (NCUC) was not an easy one.
>>>
>>> 4. Wrt the leadership position, the *NCUC EC in APAC definitely needs
>>> someone more committed to the region (especially when there are no other
>>> takers and the seat would remain vacant which would mean no APAC leader
>>> there)* and I think my time and experience can be of great benefit for
>>> the same. But at the same time I feel guilty of letting down the trustof individual
>>> APRALO members vested in me in the recent elections.
>>>
>>> I hope you will understand my disposition and support my decision. I am
>>> sincerely apologetic about giving up the APRALO Individual member rep role
>>> (after winning with a big majority) and all the inconvenience caused to
>>> APRALO leaders, staff and members.
>>>
>>> Congrats Hanan and good luck!
>>> —
>>> With gratitude
>>> Mili Semlani
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02-Jul-2019, at 16:23, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> On behalf of Satish Babu, APRALO Chair, this is to let you know the
>>> elected 2019 APRALO Individual Representative, Milli Semlani, has stepped
>>> down due to personal obligations. The candidate with the second most votes
>>> in the 2019 APRALO Individual Representative Election was Hanan Khatib:
>>> Vote on 2019 APRALO Individual Representative
>>>
>>> *Rank*
>>>
>>> *Vote Option ID*
>>>
>>> *Vote Option*
>>>
>>> *Votes*
>>>
>>> *%*
>>>
>>> 1
>>>
>>> 15998138
>>>
>>> Mili Semlani
>>>
>>> 6
>>>
>>> 54.55
>>>
>>> *2*
>>>
>>> *15998137*
>>>
>>> *Hanan Khatib*
>>>
>>> *3*
>>>
>>> *27.27*
>>>
>>> 3
>>>
>>> 15998136
>>>
>>> Justine Chew (current APRALO Individual Representative)
>>>
>>> 2
>>>
>>> 18.18
>>>
>>> You may view the result independently here:
>>> https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=13375255Yh5qCsngcjnVgNewymq
>>>
>>> Therefore, we would like to thank Milli for her service and congratulate
>>> Hanan on assuming her new role and duties in representing the APRALO
>>> Individual Member community.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community
>>>
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