[ALAC] Meeting with Goran 22 September 16.00utc.

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Fri Sep 18 17:05:15 UTC 2020

Maureen, please do not say things like "But what replaces our more 
accustomed reward for effort - of attending an ICANN meeting in some 
exotic place around the world?"!!

I am sure that for some, it is quite true that they volunteer for the 
travel rewards, but it is NOT the case for many, and it reflects SO 
BADLY on us.

I have been to MANY exotic places on ICANN's dime. only rarely have I 
taken the time to experience them. And I have been to MANY places 
that I had no interest in visiting. If every ICANN meeting were held 
at a Los Angeles airport hotel, my attendance would not be different, 
and I suspect that is the same for you.

So let's not encourage the concept that we consider travel a reward.


At 2020-09-17 09:02 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>Hi everyone
>I noted that in the threads related to discussions with Goran (and 
>wrt the ALAC-Board meeting at ICANN69) there were references made to 
>matters that were raised in the Workload Survey so that I am bending 
>towards using this interaction with Goran as an opportunity to 
>address some of our workload issues related to ICANN meetings and 
>our work with ICANN in general.
>I sent the Workload survey to Goran and others and soon after, had 
>an opportunity to speak to it during our 1:1 discussion (as one of 
>his normal SOAC Chair chats). He was sympathetic to the workload 
>issues that were raised, and I asked whether perhaps ICANN should 
>look at how they might appropriately recognise the work that is 
>being done by some very active At-Large participants at their own 
>cost - of precious down-time, energy, internet costs as well as the 
>intellectual contribution they make on a weekly basis, all for the 
>benefit of ICANN, with no expectation of compensation.
>Is it really acceptable in this day and age that people are expected 
>to have such a high level of input into an important organisational 
>output, for free? Especially in light of what many are also 
>experiencing with regards to pandemic conditions and the impacts it 
>is having on their daily lives? That volunteers across ICANN remain 
>committed to this level of giving is really amazing. But what 
>replaces our more accustomed reward for effort - of attending an 
>ICANN meeting in some exotic place around the world? In the middle 
>of a pandemic, do we have any answers?
>Another topical discussion also mentioned in the Workload survey, 
>and which was also raised in our SOAC Chairs meeting this week, was 
>the idea of regional meetings. Goran suggested that things may have 
>to be different for the future of ICANN meetings. If you have any 
>suggestions as alternatives, then I am sure that he would be happy 
>to hear them. I am re-attaching the report in case you can't find 
>it. The discussion should be interesting.
>Just to add, Leon will also be at the meeting, but he will be giving 
>his usual update on Board activities. Maybe he will have further 
>news on the Internet Grant.
>Comments welcome.
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