[ALAC] Meeting with Goran 22 September 16.00utc.

Fri Sep 18 18:30:30 UTC 2020

Agreed. If anything, we might say that the F2F meetings are an incentive to participate, interest with others,  network, etc., but travel is the wrong thing to say, I think.

Jonathan Zuck
Executive Director
Innovators Network Foundation
www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org>

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Subject: Re: [ALAC] Meeting with Goran 22 September 16.00utc.

Maureen, please do not say things like "But what replaces our more
accustomed reward for effort - of attending an ICANN meeting in some
exotic place around the world?"!!

I am sure that for some, it is quite true that they volunteer for the
travel rewards, but it is NOT the case for many, and it reflects SO
BADLY on us.

I have been to MANY exotic places on ICANN's dime. only rarely have I
taken the time to experience them. And I have been to MANY places
that I had no interest in visiting. If every ICANN meeting were held
at a Los Angeles airport hotel, my attendance would not be different,
and I suspect that is the same for you.

So let's not encourage the concept that we consider travel a reward.

Alan

At 2020-09-17 09:02 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>Hi everyone
>
>I noted that in the threads related to discussions with Goran (and
>wrt the ALAC-Board meeting at ICANN69) there were references made to
>matters that were raised in the Workload Survey so that I am bending
>towards using this interaction with Goran as an opportunity to
>address some of our workload issues related to ICANN meetings and
>our work with ICANN in general.
>
>I sent the Workload survey to Goran and others and soon after, had
>an opportunity to speak to it during our 1:1 discussion (as one of
>his normal SOAC Chair chats). He was sympathetic to the workload
>issues that were raised, and I asked whether perhaps ICANN should
>look at how they might appropriately recognise the work that is
>being done by some very active At-Large participants at their own
>cost - of precious down-time, energy, internet costs as well as the
>intellectual contribution they make on a weekly basis, all for the
>benefit of ICANN, with no expectation of compensation.
>
>Is it really acceptable in this day and age that people are expected
>to have such a high level of input into an important organisational
>output, for free? Especially in light of what many are also
>experiencing with regards to pandemic conditions and the impacts it
>is having on their daily lives? That volunteers across ICANN remain
>committed to this level of giving is really amazing. But what
>replaces our more accustomed reward for effort - of attending an
>ICANN meeting in some exotic place around the world? In the middle
>of a pandemic, do we have any answers?
>
>Another topical discussion also mentioned in the Workload survey,
>and which was also raised in our SOAC Chairs meeting this week, was
>the idea of regional meetings. Goran suggested that things may have
>to be different for the future of ICANN meetings. If you have any
>suggestions as alternatives, then I am sure that he would be happy
>to hear them. I am re-attaching the report in case you can't find
>it. The discussion should be interesting.
>
>Just to add, Leon will also be at the meeting, but he will be giving
>his usual update on Board activities. Maybe he will have further
>news on the Internet Grant.
>
>Comments welcome.
>Maureen
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