[ALAC] [ALT-Plus] ALS Mobilization WP Final Report

Mon Nov 23 16:03:21 UTC 2020

Thanks everyone.. There are some interesting options. I hope the ALAC
members are considering these carefully  :)

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On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:59 AM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
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> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 3:57 PM Matthias M. Hudobnik <matthias at hudobnik.at>
> wrote:
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>> My first choice is *"acts in the best interests"* and my second choice
>> would be *“advances the interests of”*…!
>>
>> Best,
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>> Matthias
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>> *Von:* ALAC [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] *Im Auftrag
>> von *Jonathan Zuck
>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. November 2020 08:40
>> *An:* Evan Leibovitch; Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>> *Cc:* ALAC; ALT-Plus
>> *Betreff:* Re: [ALAC] ALS Mobilization WP Final Report
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>> I’m in favor of getting as active a verb as we can manage without opening
>> ourselves up to representational issues. I like “advances the interests of”
>> for some such thing.
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>> *From: *ALAC <alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Evan
>> Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>
>> *Date: *Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 9:54 PM
>> *To: *Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> *Cc: *ALAC <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, ALT-Plus <alt-plus at icann.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [ALAC] ALS Mobilization WP Final Report
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>> I agree with and support Olivier's comments.
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>> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
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>> @evanleibovitch / @el56
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>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 at 08:20, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Hello all,
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>> Indeed using "oversees" this could imply a matter of top down authority
>> towards the community, which it does not have.
>> In using "represents the interests", it goes further than "acts in the
>> best interests", but it also opens the door to criticism that there are no
>> procedures in place to ask every Internet user what they think, so it
>> further exacerbates the issue of legitimacy. Thus I would support "acts in
>> the best interests"
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Olivier
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>> On 22/11/2020 14:17, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
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>> Dear Tijani
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>> Thank for first bringing this matter to our attention. It is an issue
>> that Alan raised as one that should be dealt with before the report is
>> accepted.
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>> The two alternatives that I had originally been given as replacements for
>> "oversee" were "advocate for" and "represent" ...
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>> But I see that your recommendations also include "represents the
>> interests of" and "is the voice of".
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>>  I will ask staff create a poll for the ALAC to pose the alternatives to
>> be considered for their selection. Thank you again for your suggestions.
>>
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>> Regards
>>
>> Maureen
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>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, 1:05 am Tijani BEN JEMAA, <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
>> wrote:
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>> Dear Maureen and all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to thank the ALS Mobilization Working Party for their work
>> and for the quality of their final report.
>>
>> I have a concern with the proposal for Bylaws change to replace "The
>> At-Large Advisory Committee ("At-Large Advisory Committee" or "ALAC") is
>> the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet
>> users » by ""The At-Large Advisory Committee ("At-Large Advisory
>> Committee" or "ALAC") *oversees* the At-Large Community which is the
>> primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users. »
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>> The ALAC doesn't oversee the At-Large Community. 2/3 of its members are
>> appointed by this community (RALOs),  I propose to modify this bylaws
>> change proposal by the following: "The At-Large Advisory Committee
>> ("At-Large Advisory Committee" or "ALAC")* is the voice* *of *the
>> At-Large Community which is the primary organizational home within ICANN
>> for individual Internet users. » or "The At-Large Advisory Committee
>> ("At-Large Advisory Committee" or "ALAC") *represents the interests of*
>> the At-Large Community which is the primary organizational home within
>> ICANN for individual Internet users. »
>>
>> The term « oversees » is not appropriate. It is as if you say the GNSO
>> council oversees the NCSG or NCUC or NPOC or the BC or the IPC or the
>> Registry …. communities. Any term that have the meaning of control or
>> domination of the At-Large Community by ALAC  wouldn’t be acceptable.
>> Otherwise, I can live with any other word.
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>> Best
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