[ALAC] [ICANN Community Leaders] ICANN67 Cancun - Coronavirus (2019-nCOV)
Humberto Carrasco
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Mon Feb 17 14:27:23 UTC 2020
Dear All,
I would take the risk as well. Also, the same inconveniences of making the meeting in Cancun can be argued for Kuala Lumpur (even in Hamburg). According to what I have read in different media, an eventual vaccine against Coronavirus will take more than a year to develop. If the Cancun meeting is canceled, the same should also be done with the other meetings this year, or at least, the meeting in Kuala Lumpur.
Regards
> El 17-02-2020, a las 10:50, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se> escribió:
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> Thanks Marita!
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> I would prefer NOT taking the risk. On top, we should plan for places that can deal with such eventualities in terms of health support etc. I don´t know how many University Hospitals are there in Cancun (and by the way research centers and students interested in technical and policy aspect of the Internet´s DNS) but after reading Alan´s comments of all aspects we have to consider, in my view, it is neither the appropriate time not the appropriate place for ICANN meetings. Nice for vacations, of course, particularly this time of the year if you come from a cold place. But I can get to a Caribbean beach much easier here in Costa Rica. It is said that all destinations in my region (San Juan, Panama, Cancun) seem to be under much higher scrutiny than other parts of the world.
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> El 2020-02-17 07:24, Marita Moll escribió:
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>> If it is not cancelled, I would take the risk and go. I have a choice. I don't work for ICANN.
>>
>> But a meeting requires staff. And I have been thinking about the staff -- what choices have they been offered. What rights do they have to refuse should they not want to take the risk. Perhaps this would be a good question for Goran on Tuesday.
>>
>> Marita
>>
>> On 2/17/2020 6:36 AM, DANIEL NANGHAKA wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Having looked at the travel concerns on the thread.
>>> We just finished our ATRT3 meeting in Brussels and there was little or no risk as everything was normal at the Brussels Airport. I travelled through Doha, it was usual.
>>> I have been through to Tanzania and Kenya, and travel activities are usual.
>>>
>>> In reference to the thread, my suggestion is that the meeting should not be cancelled.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel K. Nanghaka
>>>
>>> ᐧ
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:27, Fatimata Seye Sylla <fsylla at gmail.com <mailto:fsylla at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I think, if the meeting is not cancelled, as Alan said it, the question would be "what risks are the participants willing to take", bearing in mind that up to now, according to WHO, nothing can be predicted on how the virus will spread.
>>>
>>> Fatimata
>>>
>>> Le dim. 16 févr. 2020 à 22:09, Satish Babu via ALAC <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> a écrit :
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> I'm at APRICOT2020, together with Maureen and Lianna. The situation here in Melbourne is normal, with little use of masks in the venue, streets or even in the casino next door. Except for a few ground handling staff at the Dubai airport, I have not encountered significant mask usage anywhere during my travel either.
>>>
>>> SITREPs from the World Health Organization (see https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200216-sitrep-27-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=78c0eb78_2 <https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200216-sitrep-27-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=78c0eb78_2> for the latest in the series) is an authoritative source for information. Outside China, there appear to be just about 20 new cases (from Singapore, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia and France) as of yesterday.
>>>
>>> In my own country (India), we had three cases, all in my home province of Kerala. All three were medical students at Wuhan. They have been let go after they recovered fully and tested negative multiple times for the virus over an extended quarantine period. As of now, India has zero active cases.
>>>
>>> With kind regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> satish
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 8:44 AM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Great observations. Thank you Abdulkarim.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 8:33 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE, <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng <mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>> wrote:
>>> Hi Judith,
>>> in the last 10-11 days, I have travelled via about 10 airports (Manchester (UK), London (UK), London Gatwick (UK), Lagos (Nigeria), Abuja (Nigeria), Ilorin (Nigeria), Doha) (Qatar), Addis- Ababa (Ethiopia) Melbourn (Australia) and Perth (Australia) airports).
>>> From my experience, things were relatively normal as only a few people were having a face mask on. I didn't use a face mask. The only thing I noticed especially in the big airports was that few Chinese passengers were flying and temperate measuring device was used in all the Nigeria airports, But I think those have been in place since the Ebola outbreak. I also noticed that there was periodic announcement about anyone feeling unwell and it was easy to navigate through the airports.
>>> The only inconvenience for me was that I rescheduled my flight and avoided travelling via Hong Kong which would have offered me a shorter connecting time cos the fear of the virus
>>> But in general, I think there is no need to panic
>>> AK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 8:04 AM Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi Marita and Maureen,
>>> Possibly our ATRT3 travelers and as well the APRICOT travelers can tell us about their experiences getting into and out of the airport
>>>
>>> Best,'Judith
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> On Feb 16, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net <mailto:mmoll at ca.inter.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Maureen, one of the things I think you could raise with Goran relates to what we might be facing at the Cancun airport. I have already heard stories of lengthy delays getting through immigration here in Canada where, I would have thought, we were equipped to handle this. Cancun airport, according to the ICANN67 webpage, is a very large and busy airport with many flights coming and going from all around the world. What do we know about the added screening process at the airport and the potential delays, lengthy lineups, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Another good way to pick up a virus is to spend hours in immigration queues with hundreds of other visitors in hot stuffy conditions.
>>>>
>>>> Marita
>>>>
>>>> On 2/15/2020 6:39 PM, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google wrote:
>>>>> In theory ... the only way to really avoid this virus (and indeed all others like the Flu) is to stay at home in isolation locked up in a corner in a room or in your nuclear bunker/shelter .... and with your family as well never leaving your home so as to avoid contact with the outside world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this how we should be living? In fear? Or should we be sensible, take the necessary precautions and go about our lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, of course, if this is the much rumoured Apocalypse, then there is pretty much nothing more we can do, anyways.
>>>>>
>>>>> We will all be dead regardless.
>>>>>
>>>>> /t
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:56 AM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> A message from Goran.
>>>>> Please let me know if you have any concerns to be raised with him about this situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> From: Goran Marby <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 5:53 AM
>>>>> Subject: [ICANN Community Leaders] ICANN67 Cancun - Coronavirus (2019-nCOV)
>>>>> To: so-ac-sg-cleaders at icann.org <mailto:so-ac-sg-cleaders at icann.org> <so-ac-sg-cleaders at icann.org <mailto:so-ac-sg-cleaders at icann.org>>
>>>>> Cc: Cassia Oliveira <cassia.oliveira at icann.org <mailto:cassia.oliveira at icann.org>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Cassia Oliveira on behalf of Goran Marby
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Community Leaders:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As you know, ICANN org is actively monitoring developments worldwide concerning the novel coronavirus (2019-nCov). We take the health and safety of our staff, Board and community members very seriously and wish to do the right thing to continue to ensure that everyone remains safe and informed. In this regard, you may have heard that some international conference organizers are, like ICANN, monitoring and evaluating the locations and timings of their events. Earlier today, the GSM Association (GSMA) announced that it was canceling the Mobile World Congress (MWC) that had been scheduled to take place in Barcelona from 24-27 February 2020.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In light of these developments, I write now to ask whether you have heard any concerns from amongst your members or other community members about traveling to Cancun for ICANN67. While we have no immediate plans to cancel or reschedule the Cancun meeting, it will be very helpful to hear the community's feedback so that we can take it into account in our planning. As such, please let me or David Olive know if you or your group have information or concerns you would like to share. In the meantime, please refer to this blog post by ICANN org's Vice-President for Security Operations for information on how ICANN org is handling this important matter: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/an-update-on-the-coronavirus-and-its-impact-on-icann <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/aca771799adff02c3015c69ef47b82d1cbcd8087?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fnews%2Fblog%2Fan-update-on-the-coronavirus-and-its-impact-on-icann&userId=796692&signature=c1e87ace97533409>.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
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