[ALAC] The consolidated approach proposed by Keith Drazek

Mon May 6 13:54:35 UTC 2019

I'd be curious to know what makes DoH more attractive in comparison with
the existing DNS service in order for it to completely displace DNS.

The key question is if DoH will remain a niche technology (similar to
first- and second-generation DNS substitutes ranging from TOR, FreeNet, and
I2P to the very new Ethereum Name Service, all of which are likely to
remain niche), or if it's likely to scale up as a direct (and effective)
substitute to the generic DNS, noting that it does avoid several security
pitfalls (including eavesdropping/tracking, man-in-the-middle etc).

Also, from an Internet Consolidation perspective, DoH appears to make
things even more centralized...not necessarily a good thing for end-users.

satish

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 6:51 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Olivier,
>
> I hear you and am looking forward to more details on how that relegation
> of ICANN could happen in practice.....am sure not against having DoH on HIT
> but I hope we will first ensure to give end-users the technological details
> of DoH(in a layman way) before we move on to its political implications as
> I certainly don't think DoH threatens ICANN's root management role as you
> seem to suggest; perhaps for now one can say it could move the direction of
> a few USDs ;-)
>
> Regards
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 1:18 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yup -- in DoH think about a naming system solely run and controlled by
>> the cloud providers that have signed up for DoH. That can easily replace
>> the DNS altogether and relegate ICANN to a glitch in history.
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> On 06/05/2019 13:39, Sebastien Bachollet wrote:
>>
>> DoH is not at all today a technical question (even if we need to
>> understand the technology).
>> It is a huge political issues particularly to all Internet users.
>> SeB
>>
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>>
>> Le 6 mai 2019 à 13:13, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Hello Maureen,
>>
>> I assume the text in blue are your recommendations? if yes then am fine
>> with the suggestion, if there is an intention to further reduce the list,
>> my preference of item that I think should be retained are 4, 1, 5 in that
>> order before others can then follow. The DoH may be better suited for the
>> techday.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 4:34 AM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I finally found what I was looking for. This was Keith's consolidated
>>> approach proposed on April 30 for your consideration (to mnimise the number
>>> of HIT sessions in Marrakech)
>>>
>>> 1  Impact of GDPR and EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations on Existing Policies
>>> and Procedures.
>>>
>>> Combine 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 into one session
>>>
>>> 1.1 Combatting Abuse with GDPR
>>>
>>> 1.2 Privacy-Proxy Implementation
>>>
>>> 1.3 Across Field Validation
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 EPDP Phase 2 / Uniform Access Model
>>>
>>> REMOVE these two proposed sessions because EPDP Phase 2 work will only
>>> have been under way for 6 weeks by the time we arrive in Marrakech. It may
>>> be premature to schedule a HIT/CC session - possibly defer this to ICANN66
>>> in Montreal
>>>
>>> 3 Sessions that are merely updates can be provided as a pre-meeting
>>> webinar.
>>>
>>> 3.1 ATRT3
>>>
>>> 3.2 SSR-2
>>>
>>> 3.3 NomCom Review
>>>
>>>
>>> 4 Future of Multistakeholder Model Governance
>>>
>>> Is necessary to complete the project kicked off in Kobe by the year's
>>> end. Clearly a topic of interest to the entire community. This session
>>> should be included.
>>>
>>>
>>> 5 Enhance Effectiveness of Specific Review Recommedations and their
>>> Implementation
>>>
>>> This session is timely, particularly with developments around the
>>> Board's actions on the CCT-RT recommendations . This session should be
>>> included
>>>
>>>
>>> 6 Universal Acceptance
>>>
>>> There was a good bit of discussion in Kobe and it is an issue that
>>> appears to be generating increased interest. With the meeting being held in
>>> Marrakech, it is a good opportunity to continue discussions on the UA
>>> and IDM-related issues.
>>>
>>>
>>> 7 DNS over HTTPS (DoH)
>>>
>>> Not seen as having broad community interest at this time. Could possibly
>>> be a regular session but would REMOVE.
>>>
>>>
>>> 8 GNSO proposing these topics for one CC session
>>>
>>> 8.1 Rules for Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy
>>>
>>> 8.2 Uniform Rapid Suspension system (URS) rules
>>>
>>> 8.3 WHOIS Data Reminder Policy
>>>
>>> 8.4 Transfer Policy
>>>
>>> 8.5 Transfer Dispute Resolution Policy
>>>
>>> 8.6 Across Field Validation
>>>
>>> 8.7 Process for handing RAA Data Retention Waiver Requests
>>>
>>> 8.8 Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP)
>>>
>>> 8.9 WHOIS Accuracy Reporting System (ARS)
>>>
>>> 8.10 Thick WHOIS Transition policy for .com, .net, .jobs
>>>
>>> Comments please
>>> Maureen
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