[ALAC] SHORT Consensus Call: Fellowship Selection Criteria
Marita Moll
mmoll at ca.inter.net
Wed Sep 12 15:54:13 UTC 2018
Indeed -- kids grown up and gone, no longer tied to traditional jobs,
etc. etc.
Marita
On 9/12/2018 9:44 AM, Jean-Jacques Subrenat wrote:
> Eduardo +1.
> Jean-Jacques (78)
>
>
> Le 12 septembre 2018 à 14:44:00, Eduardo Diaz
> (eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com <mailto:eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>) a
> écrit:
>
>> I may want to start at 70 because I may have the energy, desire,
>> experience, knowledge and time to do this type of volunteer work.
>> After all it is more mental than physical.
>>
>> -ed
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 5:40 AM Tijani BEN JEMAA
>> <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>> wrote:
>>
>> Seun,
>>
>> The upper age limit is there because the fellowship should
>> benefit to people who may become ICANN leaders while if you start
>> being fellow at 70, when you will become leader?
>> But I would be fine if the majority want no upper limit.
>>
>> As for having 2 sets of requirements for the skill (one for
>> meetings A & C and one for meeting B), I agree
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
>> Executive Director
>> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
>> Phone: +216 98 330 114 <tel:+216%2098%20330%20114>
>> +216 52 385 114 <tel:+216%2052%20385%20114>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>> Le 11 sept. 2018 à 10:00, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> I agree with Tijani's comments but with caveats on 2 points:
>>>
>>> Age: Am fine with the lower band limit since there is nextgen
>>> hence younger ones should use that but I personally don't see a
>>> need for upper band limit.
>>>
>>> Skills: I agree with the comments but I think experience in
>>> ICANN processes should still be maintained for B meeting. I do
>>> think that having 2 sets of requirement for the meetings will be
>>> better. One that is less strong on ICANN participation for
>>> meetings A and C and then another for meetings B which is more
>>> focused on prior participation/understanding of ICANN processes
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Sent from my mobile
>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>>
>>> On Fri, 7 Sep 2018, 12:08 Tijani BEN JEMAA,
>>> <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> I would like to thank the outreach and engagement
>>> sub-committee for providing this good draft.
>>> Nevertheless, I have concerns in the following categories of
>>> diversity: Region, Age, Skills and other diversity category:
>>>
>>> * *Region:* As it is written here, we may have the whole
>>> selected fellows from the global north (people with
>>> sufficient wealth to come to ICANN meetings on their own
>>> expenses). My proposal is « Underserved regions and
>>> global underserved communities ».
>>> * *Age:* I agree with Sarah and Ricardo that limiting the
>>> age to 40 years is to avoid. I propose in stead « 24 -
>>> 55 years)
>>> * *Skills:* Someone skilled in ICANN policy development
>>> with ability to analyse data from an Internet end user
>>> perspective, as well as knowledge and technical
>>> experience of/with the Internet eco-system won’t have
>>> any need to be fellow. He/she is already expert. The
>>> original objective of the fellowship program is to bring
>>> people who need the fellowship to be able to attend an
>>> ICANN meeting, and the whole fellowship program for
>>> fellows during the meeting is more or less capacity
>>> building. So experts wouldn’t need the program and
>>> doesn’t give ICANN any added value. I propose: «
>>> sufficient educational background to understand the
>>> ICANN environment, good understanding of the English
>>> language, Interest in Internet in general, Interest in
>>> participating in the ICANN work ».
>>> * *Other diversity category:* Civil Society, Internet
>>> end-users, global indigenous people are kind of
>>> stakeholders. They should be placed in the
>>> section « Stakeholders groups and constituencies. I
>>> don’t think we should target persons because they are
>>> victims of harassment or conflicts. Exclusion and
>>> extreme poverty fall under the region category when it
>>> is defined as « Underserved regions and global
>>> underserved communities ».
>>>
>>>
>>> As a general remark, I don’t think we were asked to give our
>>> own interest only. I think we should give the best target
>>> for the whole ICANN.
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
>>> Executive Director
>>> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
>>> Phone: +216 98 330 114 <tel:+216%2098%20330%20114>
>>> +216 52 385 114 <tel:+216%2052%20385%20114>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 7 sept. 2018 à 08:01, Ricardo Holmquist
>>>> <rihogris at gmail.com <mailto:rihogris at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> same question of Sarah. I was one of the fellows over 40
>>>> years, as well as Alfredo Calderon, and several others.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO, people over this range of age have more time to
>>>> engage in this kind of tasks, unless they are also engaged
>>>> in any part of the community as workers. I mean, if you
>>>> work for a RIR, any Internet association, a University
>>>> Professor, a Govermental employee in a Internet Governance
>>>> office, a Law firm interested in IP, or a Registry or
>>>> Registrar, part of your job will be ICANN. Your boss will
>>>> now who is ICANN, and most times will be happy you are there.
>>>>
>>>> If you are a volunteer in ISOC or at any other Internet
>>>> related association, or an Individual member, you should
>>>> have a regular job. Under 40 years you are in your most
>>>> productive time, usually with kids in their scholar
>>>> process. Taking 7-10 days to assist to a meeting, and if
>>>> engaged, time to do so, doesn´t sound feasible.
>>>>
>>>> For the At-Large community, most of its dedicated members
>>>> came from the second, not from the first. You can check
>>>> ALAC, very few exceptions are under 40. This age top, will
>>>> affect us mostly.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Ricardo Holmquist
>>>>
>>>> 2018-09-07 6:25 GMT+02:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:skiden at gmail.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Alan for sending this document.
>>>>
>>>> I have a question regarding the age that has specified
>>>> in the attached document. The fellowship requirement is
>>>> for applicants to be above 21 years of age but there is
>>>> no maximum age mentioned. Is there a reason why this
>>>> document states 24 - 40 years?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 00:01 Alan Greenberg
>>>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>>>> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Along with the need to select a Fellowship
>>>> Selection Committee Member representing the ALAC,
>>>> we have been asked to make suggestions on the
>>>> criteria for selection and places to publicize the
>>>> program.
>>>>
>>>> The SC on Outreach and Engagement was given the
>>>> task of working on the latter document. the result
>>>> (with a minor change to include regional IGF
>>>> meetings) is attached.
>>>>
>>>> *_With this message, I am initiating a SHORT
>>>> Consensus Call of the ALAC_* to ratify the criteria
>>>> document.
>>>>
>>>> This Consensus Call will end at 23:59 UTC on
>>>> Sunday, 9 September 2018.
>>>>
>>>> If there are any questions of comments, please
>>>> direct them to either this list or to me directly.
>>>>
>>>> Although messages indicating support are welcome,
>>>> they are not necessary. This Consensus Call will be
>>>> deemed to have succeeded in the absence of
>>>> significant opposition (greater than 20% as
>>>> specified by ALAC RoP 12.3.3.1).
>>>>
>>>> Alan
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