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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Indeed -- kids grown
up and gone, no longer tied to traditional jobs, etc. etc. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/12/2018 9:44 AM, Jean-Jacques
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<p class="airmail_on">Le 12 septembre 2018 à 14:44:00, Eduardo
Diaz (<a href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com"
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<div dir="ltr">I may want to start at 70 because I may
have
the energy, desire, experience, knowledge and time to do
this type
of volunteer work. After all it is more mental than
physical.
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 5:40 AM
Tijani BEN JEMAA
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<div>The upper age limit is there because the
fellowship should
benefit to people who may become ICANN leaders
while if you start
being fellow at 70, when you will become
leader?</div>
<div>But I would be fine if the majority want no
upper limit.</div>
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<div>As for having 2 sets of requirements for
the skill (one for
meetings A & C and one for meeting B), I
agree</div>
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<div>Le 11 sept. 2018 à 10:00, Seun
Ojedeji <<a
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<div dir="auto">I agree with Tijani's
comments but with caveats on
2 points:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Age: Am fine with the
lower band limit since there
is nextgen hence younger ones should
use that but I personally
don't see a need for upper band
limit.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Skills: I agree with
the comments but I think
experience in ICANN processes should
still be maintained for B
meeting. I do think that having 2
sets of requirement for the
meetings will be better. One that is
less strong on ICANN
participation for meetings A and C
and then another for meetings B
which is more focused on prior
participation/understanding of ICANN
processes</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, 7 Sep 2018,
12:08 Tijani BEN JEMAA,
<<a
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target="_blank"
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all,</font>
<div><font color="#002E7A"> </font></div>
<div><font color="#002E7A">I would
like to thank the outreach and
engagement sub-committee for
providing this good
draft.</font></div>
<div><font color="#002E7A">Nevertheless,
I have concerns in the
following categories of
diversity: Region, Age, Skills
and other
diversity category:</font></div>
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<li><font color="#002E7A"><b>Region:</b> As
it is written
here, we may have the
whole selected fellows
from the global north
(people with sufficient
wealth to come to ICANN
meetings on their
own expenses). My proposal
is « Underserved regions
and
global underserved
communities ».</font></li>
<li><font color="#002E7A"><b>Age:</b> I
agree with Sarah and
Ricardo that limiting the
age to 40 years is to
avoid. I propose in
stead « 24 - 55 years)</font></li>
<li><font color="#002E7A"><b>Skills:</b> Someone
skilled in
ICANN policy development
with ability to analyse
data from an
Internet end user
perspective, as well as
knowledge and technical
experience of/with the
Internet eco-system won’t
have any need to
be fellow. He/she is
already expert. The
original objective of the
fellowship program is to
bring people who need the
fellowship to be
able to attend an ICANN
meeting, and the whole
fellowship program
for fellows during the
meeting is more or less
capacity building.
So experts wouldn’t need
the program and doesn’t
give ICANN any
added value. I propose: «
sufficient educational
background to
understand the ICANN
environment, good
understanding of the
English
language, Interest in
Internet in general,
Interest in
participating in the ICANN
work ».</font></li>
<li><font color="#002E7A"><b>Other
diversity
category:</b> Civil
Society, Internet
end-users, global
indigenous people are kind
of stakeholders. They
should be placed
in the
section « Stakeholders
groups and constituencies.
I don’t think we should
target persons because
they are victims of
harassment or conflicts.
Exclusion and extreme
poverty fall under
the region category when
it is defined
as « Underserved
regions and global
underserved communities ».</font></li>
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<div><font color="#002E7A">As a
general remark, I don’t
think we
were asked to give our own
interest only. I think we
should give
the best target for the
whole ICANN.</font></div>
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<div>Le 7 sept. 2018 à
08:01, Ricardo Holmquist
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<div>Hi,</div>
<div>same question of
Sarah. I was one of
the fellows over 40
years, as well as
Alfredo Calderon, and
several others.</div>
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<div>IMHO, people over
this range of age have
more time to engage
in this kind of tasks,
unless they are also
engaged in any part of
the community as
workers. I mean, if
you work for a RIR,
any
Internet association,
a University
Professor, a
Govermental
employee in a Internet
Governance office, a
Law firm interested in
IP, or a Registry or
Registrar, part of
your job will be
ICANN.
Your boss will now who
is ICANN, and most
times will be happy
you
are there.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you are a
volunteer in ISOC or
at any other Internet
related association,
or an Individual
member, you should
have a
regular job. Under 40
years you are in your
most productive time,
usually with kids in
their scholar process.
Taking 7-10 days to
assist to a meeting,
and if engaged, time
to do so, doesn´t
sound
feasible.</div>
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</div>
<div>For the At-Large
community, most of its
dedicated members came
from the second, not
from the first. You
can check ALAC, very
few
exceptions are under
40. This age top, will
affect us mostly.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kind regards<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Ricardo Holmquist<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-09-07
6:25 GMT+02:00 Sarah
Kiden
<span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div
dir="auto">Thank
you Alan for
sending this
document. </div>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I
have a
question
regarding the
age that has
specified in
the attached
document. The
fellowship
requirement is
for applicants
to be above 21
years of age
but there is
no maximum
age mentioned.
Is there a
reason why
this document
states 24 - 40
years? </div>
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<div dir="auto">Kind
regards,</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Sarah </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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Fri, Sep 7,
2018 at 00:01
Alan Greenberg
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<div>Along
with the need
to select a
Fellowship
Selection
Committee
Member
representing
the ALAC, we
have been
asked to make
suggestions on
the criteria
for selection
and places to
publicize
the program.<br>
<br>
The SC on
Outreach and
Engagement was
given the task
of working on
the latter
document. the
result (with a
minor change
to include
regional IGF
meetings) is
attached.<br>
<br>
<b><u>With
this message,
I am
initiating a
SHORT
Consensus Call
of
the ALAC</u></b>
to ratify the
criteria
document.<br>
<br>
This Consensus
Call will end
at 23:59 UTC
on Sunday, 9
September
2018.<br>
<br>
If there are
any questions
of comments,
please direct
them to
either this
list or to me
directly.<br>
<br>
Although
messages
indicating
support are
welcome, they
are not
necessary.
This Consensus
Call will be
deemed to have
succeeded in
the absence of
significant
opposition
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20% as
specified by
ALAC RoP
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