[ALAC] Fw: Interesting article about parked domains

Mon May 22 18:35:37 UTC 2017

Ah yes, and so it should!

Like I say, Alan is simply the best researcher we have...and IMHO, the most
significant portion of the institutional memory ala ICANN in the At-Large.

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On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org>
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> Good to remember Alan. By the way, guess you should be listed as someone
> to be interviewed for ICANN History , if you didn’t yet.
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> *From: *<alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan
> Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> *Date: *Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 2:05 PM
> *To: *Kan Kaili <kankaili at gmail.com>, 'ALAC List' <
> alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Olivier Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
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> *Subject: *Re: [ALAC] Fw: Interesting article about parked domains
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> Domain parking is not a new issue for At-Large. We have a long and
> interesting history related to this topic.
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> In 2007, there was a prevalent practice among a number of registrars and
> domainers called "domain tasting" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Domain_tasting). In short it was a completely legitimate (that is not
> against any rules) proactive which allowed a domain to be registered and
> monetized, and if it did not prove profitable, to cancel the registration
> at no net cost (ie free). This allowed the "tasting" on many millions of
> domains per month. The practice was also used to some extent for disposable
> domains for generating spam (it was before phishing was common). If I
> remember correctly, less than 1% were kept because they proved profitable
> (often typos of real domain names). The ALAC requested a GNSO PDP to stop
> the practice. Once the new policy was developed and adopted, it made
> tasting to expensive to be practical in the general case.
>
> The issue of parked monetized pages also arose when we were requesting a
> PDP on ensuring the rights of registrants who accidentally let their domain
> expire. It was common for the registrar to monetize the page at expiration
> or soon after, allowing them to make some extra money, and also gauge
> whether the domain was "valuable" or not. If it was valuable, they could
> take  over the registration (virtually all registration agreements let them
> do that) and then use it themselves or auction it off. We ultimately
> decided to not object to the practice, since doing so would impact the
> registrars revenue stream and would make it much more difficult to achieve
> the real aims of the PDP. This proved to be a correct analysis. We did
> ensure that the monetized page clearly said it was an expired domain and
> told the registrant how to get it back. And made sure the price did not go
> up immediately due to what was learned during monetization.
>
> Interestingly we also in a few cases probably increased the monetization
> because it was the practice in some cases to NOT interrupt the domain and
> monetize it. This allowed the domain to work as if it was still owned by
> the original registrant until it was too late to renew the registration
> (generally 30 days) and then the registrar could take it over without any
> way for the registrant to get it back at a reasonable price.
>
> This is a discussion that we could have, but I think it rather unlikely
> that ICANN would stop the practice, as it directly goes to how the domain
> is being used and its content. The only real issue within ICANN's current
> remit is that in many cases, a parked domain is one that is found by
> incorrectly typing a URL. A few years ago it was common to his monetized
> pages through a search engine, but these days the search sites seem pretty
> good at filtering them out - or at least that is my experience (largely
> with Google).
>
> Alan
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> At 21/05/2017 03:11 AM, Kan Kaili wrote:
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> Hi again,
>
> This article may have nothing to do with Google.  Sorry for that ...
> (although Google did provide the platform for these activities)
>
> However, it also tells how to make money at the end-users' expense quite a
> few years ago.  Over time, according to some research, this has already
> grown into an industry by itself.
>
> This is one of the reasons why the At-Large community needs to look into
> domain parking.
>
> Kaili
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Olivier MJ CrÃ©pin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
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> To: alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 2:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fw: Interesting article about parked domains
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> Dear Kaili,
>
> that article dates from 2010. Google has since retired Adsense for domains.
>
> https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/2456470?visit_
> id=1-636309457565105321-703054909&ctx=as2&rd=1
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> ps. the author is the owner of GroovyPost which has nothing to do with
> Google.
>
> On 21/05/2017 08:22, Kan Kaili wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Thanks a lot for sharing.  Just read the article titled "Make Easy Money
> from Your Parked Domains with Google AdSense for Domains".
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> https://www.groovypost.com/howto/google/google-adsense-
> for-domains-review-make-money-from-parked/
>
> This article by Google itself teaches you how to make money from parked
> domains, although at the expense of consumers and end-users.
>
>
>
> I am used to think of Google as "DO NO EVIL".  Well, maybe not always
> ...   :(
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> Kaili
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