[ALAC] ALS certification and decertification votes

Evan Leibovitch evan at telly.org
Fri Oct 3 15:24:43 UTC 2014

On 3 October 2014 10:56, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:

> Tijani, I understand. As I previously said, if there is support for your
> position, we probably need to make sure it is acceptable in case there is a
> dispute.
> 1. We have general agreement that de-certification votes should be
> standard open votes.
> 2. We have general agreement that how ALAC members vote on certification
> motions should not be published.
> 3. We have some level of agreement that in the case of a dispute, staff
> and Chair can access the details of how people voted to allow a summary
> statement to be created on why the request for accreditation did not
> succeed. However, there is some disagreement with this.

​I'm not sure that summary is accurate.

Based on my proposal ​-- with which you (Alan) and many others agreed -- is
that in the vast majority of cases where the RALO advice is clear, the ALAC
certification vote remains open. *That is the opposite of what you have in
point #2 above.*

Based on the emails to date, only Tijani has expressed the view that all
certification votes should be closed. There is certainly NOT general
agreement on that, I oppose it myself. Indeed, some (including myself and
Raf) understand that my proposal -- to close the votes *only* for those ALS
applications for which RALO advice is conflicted -- is a difficult
compromise, since the preference is to be totally open.

- Evan

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