[ALAC] Follow-up on the ALAC Advice to the Board regarding PICs

[León Felipe Sánchez Ambía]

Thanks Alan, Olivier and Evan,

I agree with the proposed changes suggested by Olivier.

Best regards,

León
> El 13/11/2014, a las 13:44, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> escribió:
> 
> OK.
> 
> I had thought that once the vote started, the draft being voted on was set
> in stone.
> 
> The changes Olivier suggests are all reasonable. I'm pressed for time today
> but will try to do the changes.
> 
> - Evan
> 
> 
> On 13 November 2014 14:34, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
> 
>> Evan, I believe that all (or most) of the changes that Olivier is
>> suggesting are cosmetic and do not at all change the intent or meaning of
>> the statement. If I had more time, I probably would have caught most last
>> night. Please try to make these changes and I will get it reported (and a
>> formal note of explanation to the ALAC) when I return in a few hours.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> At 13/11/2014 01:57 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 13 November 2014 11:28, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>> Dear Alan,
>> 
>> thank you for this. I realise that time is of the essence, so will be
>> short in my comments:
>> 
>> 1. This is a formal follow-up Advice from the ALAC.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ​Maybe this is hair-splitting, but it is more as background to existing
>> advice -- caused by the Board's need for more information -- rather than
>> new independent Advice.
>> 
>> ALAC has long had to deal with different classifications of what it votes
>> on. As this document itself contains no recommended courses of action
>> itself, I would not call it Advice.​
>> 
>> 
>> As such, when
>> mentioning names etc. it should be better if a certain level of
>> formality is upheld. When citing names, please cite the full name:
>> "The heightened protection measures announced by Fadi, at the start of
>> ICANN51"
>> -> The heightened protection measures announced by ICANN President and
>> CEO Fadi Chehadé, at the start of ICANN51"
>> ​
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [...other generally-sensible edits ...]​
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ​Believe me, Olivier, given more time there is much that could have been
>> refined, added, and maybe even taken out. Notably, more time would have
>> enabled direct answers to the illogical Registry response that PICs can
>> only be fixed through a PDP (as the PICs themselves were not created by a
>> PDP).
>> 
>> But doing even a usable statement able to actually be effective has been a
>> fight ​against time, which is the reason the voting period is so
>> compressed. Similarly, consultation with the gTLD WG was also compressed
>> (and was not helped when the email thread started by my urgently asking the
>> WG to review the original draft was hijacked for an unrelated purpose :-P ).
>> 
>> The Board is **now** considering its response to our Advice from ICANN51.
>> To say this "backgrounder" was done expediently is an understatement. In
>> the time it would take to incorporate your edits (and others that would be
>> considered), the document will have been rendered nearly useless by not
>> getting to the Board in time. Your indulgence is appreciated.
>> 
>> ​OTOH, if there is anything FACTUALLY (rather than stylistically) wrong
>> with the doc, that needs addressing.​
>> 
>> 
>> ​- Evan​
>> 
>> 
> 
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