[ALAC] Compliance complaint

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Thu Mar 13 00:30:01 UTC 2014


I am assuming that the lack of a reply from Olivier means we have 
heard nothing back.

Compliance has already they don't want to spend the time with us 
going over the same presentation that they will give in the public 
session, so focusing on our proposal for a new submission tool seems 
appropriate.

Alan

At 12/03/2014 07:25 PM, Holly Raiche wrote:
>Hi Alan (and Garth)
>
>Well done - so far. My suggestion - that this be front and centre 
>with any ALAC discussions with Compliance
>
>Holly
>
>On 12/03/2014, at 4:09 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>
> > I received a message from Compliance on 10 March saying that the 
> complaint we submitted had been closed because "Based on the 
> current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was 
> received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took 
> reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by 
> suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name."
> >
> > On checking the Whois record, the domain still exists, but it is 
> in "client Hold" status which means that it is no longer in the 
> zone file. A DNS lookup confirmed this.
> >
> > The domain is due to expire on 24 April.
> >
> > So the result of this exercise is that the particular domain that 
> we were complaining about is out of service. It remains to be seen 
> whether it will pop back again or not. The fictitious e-mail 
> address is still reported (by domaintools.com) as being in use by 
> over 1000 other domain names. It is not clear how many of them 
> might also be unusable, but at least one that I checked 
> (updflashplayer.com) is still in the DNS but does not seem to be live.
> >
> > To do further investigation would require more time than I have 
> at the moment, and access to domain tools that I don't have. 
> Perhaps Garth would like to follow0up and if so, I ask that he 
> contact me directly to develop a plan of action.
> >
> > The bottom line seems to be that the compliance process worked in 
> this case, but it is clearly insufficient to address the root 
> problem that was being identified. The complaint process that we 
> have suggested to Compliance would be far better suited. Have we 
> had ANY response from them?
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> > At 18/02/2014 05:03 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> >>> The problem summary:
> >>>
> >>> Reporter Name: Alan Greenberg, on behalf of ALAC Leadership Team
> >>> Reporter Email: alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
> >>> Domain being reported: rapetube.org
> >>>
> >>> Time of submission/processing: Tue Feb 18 16:23:13 2014
> >>>
> >>> Problem in whois block: Technical Contact
> >>> --- Error in address: Incorrect address
> >>> --- Error in email: Incorrect email
> >>> --- Comment: Same information as above.
> >>>
> >>> Problem in whois block: Registrant Contact
> >>> --- Error in address: Incorrect address
> >>> --- Comment: Domain given for e-mail address, 
> "Privacy-Protect.cn" is a non-existent domain and 
> therefore cannot possible be a valid address.
> >>>
> >>> Street address, "Rue la produit 34, Nimes, 
> Languedoc-Roussillon, France, Postal Code:30189" is a 
> non-existent address, and the postal code given (30189) is in fact 
> an "area code" or "INSEE code" and not a valid postal code.
> >>>
> >>> The same registrant for other registrations gives the same 
> invalid e-mail address, but often a valid street address (26 Rue 
> Jean Reboul, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France 30900" which 
> is apparetnly the address of a restaurant - 
> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+Nimes,+France&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.834047,4.357839&spn=0.010819,0.02311&sll=43.834016,4.357919&sspn=0.00136,0.002889&oq=26+jean+reboul,+&hnear=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+30900+N%C3%AEmes,+Gard,+Languedoc-Roussillon,+France&t=m&z=16).
> >>>
> >>> Problem in whois block: Administrative Contact
> >>> --- Error in address: Incorrect address
> >>> --- Error in email: Incorrect email
> >>> --- Comment: Same information as above.
> >>>
> >>> The whois at the time of processing is:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> REGISTRY WHOIS:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Domain Name:RAPETUBE.ORG
> >>> Domain ID: D155914076-LROR
> >>> Creation Date: 2009-04-21T14:44:42Z
> >>> Updated Date: 2013-04-16T08:41:16Z
> >>> Registry Expiry Date: 2014-04-21T14:44:42Z
> >>> Sponsoring Registrar:Bizcn.com, Inc. (R1248-LROR)
> >>> Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 471
> >>> WHOIS Server:
> >>> Referral URL:
> >>> Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
> >>> Registrant ID:orgre90683958698
> >>> Registrant Name:Henry Nguyen Gong
> >>> Registrant Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn
> >>> Registrant Street: Rue la produit 34
> >>> Registrant City:Nimes
> >>> Registrant State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon
> >>> Registrant Postal Code:30189
> >>> Registrant Country:FR
> >>> Registrant Phone:+33.466583875
> >>> Registrant Phone Ext:
> >>> Registrant Fax: +33.466583875
> >>> Registrant Fax Ext:
> >>> Registrant Email:contact at privacy-protect.cn
> >>> Admin ID:orgre90683959424
> >>> Admin Name:Henry Nguyen Gong
> >>> Admin Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn
> >>> Admin Street: Rue la produit 34
> >>> Admin City:Nimes
> >>> Admin State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon
> >>> Admin Postal Code:30189
> >>> Admin Country:FR
> >>> Admin Phone:+33.466583875
> >>> Admin Phone Ext:
> >>> Admin Fax: +33.466583875
> >>> Admin Fax Ext:
> >>> Admin Email:contact at privacy-protect.cn
> >>> Tech ID:orgre90683960526
> >>> Tech Name:Henry Nguyen Gong
> >>> Tech Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn
> >>> Tech Street: Rue la produit 34
> >>> Tech City:Nimes
> >>> Tech State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon
> >>> Tech Postal Code:30189
> >>> Tech Country:FR
> >>> Tech Phone:+33.466583875
> >>> Tech Phone Ext:
> >>> Tech Fax: +33.466583875
> >>> Tech Fax Ext:
> >>> Tech Email:contact at privacy-protect.cn
> >>> Name Server:NS3.CNMSN.COM
> >>> Name Server:NS4.CNMSN.COM
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> Name Server:
> >>> DNSSEC:Unsigned
> >
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