[ALAC] Fwd: Proposed Joint Statement on IANA Transition and ICANNAccountability?

Evan Leibovitch evan at telly.org
Wed Jun 25 09:44:37 UTC 2014


I agree with Holly. I have serious problems with the wording of the first
paragraph as it sounds like a prelude to litigation.

(there certainly has never been a well-defined compact with *our*
community)

But otherwise I'm generally OK with the sentiment.
On Jun 25, 2014 9:07 AM, <h.raiche at internode.on.net> wrote:

>
>  Hi Olivier (and everyone)
>
>  I would support the principles of the statement - not necessarily the
> words.
>
>  I think what we can all agree on would be more accountability -
> within ICANN itself, but also accountability of the board. I'm not
> sure people want external structures. What Group 4 came up with was a
> staanding entity of some kind that includes all the elements of the
> ICANN community (and perhaps wider although - personally - not sure
> how that would work. So can we have general words about accountability
> structure of the Board that is independent of the Board - without
> getting more specific
>
>  Hope that helps
>
>  Holly
>
>  On Wed 25/06/14 5:02 PM , Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl at gih.com sent:
>  Please be so kind to also consider the email below, which includes
> the
>  proposed text.
>  Kind regards,
>
>  Olivier
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
>  Subject: Proposed Joint Statement on IANA Transition and ICANN
>  Accountability?
>  Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:20:01 +0000
>  From: Drazek, Keith
>  To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond (ocl at gih.com)
>
>  Olivier,
>
>  Are you aware of this joint community statement under development
>  (below)? I think we have a very unique opportunity, perhaps even
>  unprecedented, for the community to come together around a common
>  position and sign on to a statement calling for meaningful
>  accountability reform. From all conversations I’ve had this week,
> there
>  seems to be strong consensus around the principles outlined in the
> draft
>  statement, and I think this is a critical issue for all of us. Do you
>  have a sense of whether the ALAC might be able to join the GNSO (and
>  possibly the ccNSO) and sign on before Thursday’s public forum?
> Happy
>  to discuss when we both find a few free minutes.
>
>  Also, not sure if you saw this from yesterday’s Board-GAC session,
> but
>  /Fadi is attempting to reverse his NetMundial position on the
>  interdependence of IANA Transition and ICANN Accountability:/
>
>  / /
>
>  /NETMUDIAL/
>
>  /"These two processes are very interrelated. I may have used the word
> in
>  the past 'separate'. I take that word back. They are related
> processes.
>  They will run in parallel but they will inform each other. They are
>  interdependent, they're interrelated, and if we are successful, we
>  should get these processes to work on the same timeline."/
>
>  / /
>
>  /YESTERDAY (DURING BOARD-GAC MEETING)/
>
>  /“I acknowledge the statement from the EU and assure them the
>  accountability process will be very important. It is currently open
> and
>  this is a time for you to contribute. We have to be careful how we
> tie
>  this to the transition as there are elements in the community who
> want
>  to delay the transition. This should not be about interdependence
>  between the two processes but about them being interrelated./
>
>  Thanks and regards,
>
>  Keith
>
>  BEGIN TEXT:
>
>  The [entire GNSO] join together today calling for the Board to
> support
>  community creation of an independent accountability mechanism that
>  provides meaningful review and adequate redress for those harmed by
>  ICANN action or inaction in contravention of an agreed upon compact
> with
>  the community. This deserves the Board's serious consideration - not
>  only does it reflect an unprecedented level of consensus across the
>  [entire] ICANN community, it is a necessary and integral element of
> the
>  IANA transition.
>
>  True accountability does not mean ICANN is only accountable to
> itself,
>  or to some vague definition of “the world,” nor does it mean that
>  governments should have the ultimate say over community policy
> subject
>  to the rule of law. Rather, the Board’s decisions must be open to
>  challenge and the Board cannot be in a position of reviewing and
>  certifying its own decisions. We need an independent accountability
>  structure that holds the ICANN Board, Staff, and various stakeholder
>  groups accountable under ICANN’s governing documents, serves as an
>  ultimate review of Board/Staff decisions, and through the creation of
>  precedent, creates prospective guidance for the board, the staff, and
>  the entire community.
>
>  As part of the IANA transition, the multi-stakeholder community has
> the
>  opportunity and responsibility to propose meaningful accountability
>  structures that go beyond just the IANA-specific accountability
> issues.
>  We are committed to coming together and developing recommendations
> for
>  creation of these mechanisms. We ask the ICANN Board and Staff to
>  fulfill their obligations and support this community driven,
>  multi-stakeholder initiative.
>
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