[ALAC] Fwd: Proposed Joint Statement on IANA Transition and ICANNAccountability?
Evan Leibovitch
evan at telly.org
Wed Jun 25 09:44:37 UTC 2014
I agree with Holly. I have serious problems with the wording of the first
paragraph as it sounds like a prelude to litigation.
(there certainly has never been a well-defined compact with *our*
community)
But otherwise I'm generally OK with the sentiment.
On Jun 25, 2014 9:07 AM, <h.raiche at internode.on.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Olivier (and everyone)
>
> I would support the principles of the statement - not necessarily the
> words.
>
> I think what we can all agree on would be more accountability -
> within ICANN itself, but also accountability of the board. I'm not
> sure people want external structures. What Group 4 came up with was a
> staanding entity of some kind that includes all the elements of the
> ICANN community (and perhaps wider although - personally - not sure
> how that would work. So can we have general words about accountability
> structure of the Board that is independent of the Board - without
> getting more specific
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Holly
>
> On Wed 25/06/14 5:02 PM , Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl at gih.com sent:
> Please be so kind to also consider the email below, which includes
> the
> proposed text.
> Kind regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Proposed Joint Statement on IANA Transition and ICANN
> Accountability?
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:20:01 +0000
> From: Drazek, Keith
> To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond (ocl at gih.com)
>
> Olivier,
>
> Are you aware of this joint community statement under development
> (below)? I think we have a very unique opportunity, perhaps even
> unprecedented, for the community to come together around a common
> position and sign on to a statement calling for meaningful
> accountability reform. From all conversations I’ve had this week,
> there
> seems to be strong consensus around the principles outlined in the
> draft
> statement, and I think this is a critical issue for all of us. Do you
> have a sense of whether the ALAC might be able to join the GNSO (and
> possibly the ccNSO) and sign on before Thursday’s public forum?
> Happy
> to discuss when we both find a few free minutes.
>
> Also, not sure if you saw this from yesterday’s Board-GAC session,
> but
> /Fadi is attempting to reverse his NetMundial position on the
> interdependence of IANA Transition and ICANN Accountability:/
>
> / /
>
> /NETMUDIAL/
>
> /"These two processes are very interrelated. I may have used the word
> in
> the past 'separate'. I take that word back. They are related
> processes.
> They will run in parallel but they will inform each other. They are
> interdependent, they're interrelated, and if we are successful, we
> should get these processes to work on the same timeline."/
>
> / /
>
> /YESTERDAY (DURING BOARD-GAC MEETING)/
>
> /“I acknowledge the statement from the EU and assure them the
> accountability process will be very important. It is currently open
> and
> this is a time for you to contribute. We have to be careful how we
> tie
> this to the transition as there are elements in the community who
> want
> to delay the transition. This should not be about interdependence
> between the two processes but about them being interrelated./
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Keith
>
> BEGIN TEXT:
>
> The [entire GNSO] join together today calling for the Board to
> support
> community creation of an independent accountability mechanism that
> provides meaningful review and adequate redress for those harmed by
> ICANN action or inaction in contravention of an agreed upon compact
> with
> the community. This deserves the Board's serious consideration - not
> only does it reflect an unprecedented level of consensus across the
> [entire] ICANN community, it is a necessary and integral element of
> the
> IANA transition.
>
> True accountability does not mean ICANN is only accountable to
> itself,
> or to some vague definition of “the world,” nor does it mean that
> governments should have the ultimate say over community policy
> subject
> to the rule of law. Rather, the Board’s decisions must be open to
> challenge and the Board cannot be in a position of reviewing and
> certifying its own decisions. We need an independent accountability
> structure that holds the ICANN Board, Staff, and various stakeholder
> groups accountable under ICANN’s governing documents, serves as an
> ultimate review of Board/Staff decisions, and through the creation of
> precedent, creates prospective guidance for the board, the staff, and
> the entire community.
>
> As part of the IANA transition, the multi-stakeholder community has
> the
> opportunity and responsibility to propose meaningful accountability
> structures that go beyond just the IANA-specific accountability
> issues.
> We are committed to coming together and developing recommendations
> for
> creation of these mechanisms. We ask the ICANN Board and Staff to
> fulfill their obligations and support this community driven,
> multi-stakeholder initiative.
>
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