[ALAC] [ALAC-Objections] First Community objections results and determinations being published by the ICC

Holly Raiche h.raiche at internode.on.net
Thu Sep 26 20:57:54 UTC 2013


I have to agree with Evan, Carlton and Rinalia.  What I am reading between the lines is a rant by people who spent lots of money and feel entitled, therefore, to the name.  The 'community', therefore, is simply a roadblock, something to belittle.  And the real problem, as ALAC has pointed out, is that there isn't the rigour and consistency there should be - with the ruling on com/cam as the best example (and the confusing rulings on plurals a close second). It's beginning to feel as if the whole new gTLD process is rapidly going WAY off the rails.

Holly


On 27/09/2013, at 6:10 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:

> I would note, from reading the letter from these applicants, that the
> perceived flaws of the system are, in this case at least, working in favour
> of the public interest.
> 
> Reading the letter, it seems that the applicants are taking to task (what
> is in their opinion) an overly broad interpretation of the term
> "community", and wish to dismiss the objections by belittling the
> objectors' status. They go so far as to characterize two (IMO reasonable)
> GAC early warnings as "outrageous".
> 
> If this is the way the Experts will be operating -- erring on the side of
> public interest when AGB lacks clarity, and recognizing the more-absurd
> constraints on ICANN's definition of "community" -- I'm OK with that.
> 
> - Evan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 26 September 2013 10:45, Rinalia Abdul Rahim <
> rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Dev. This is exactly the kins of problem we don't want to have with
>> the CPE by not having properly trained evaluators regarding "community".
>> No reason why the NGPC can't understand why we are concerned after
>> receiving this type of correspondence.
>> 
>> Rinalia
>> On Sep 26, 2013 10:17 PM, "Dev Anand Teelucksingh" <devtee at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Letter to Cherine Chalaby, Fadi Chehade, Christine Willet (ICANN) from
>>> Shweta Sahjwani (Radix Registry), Jay Westerdal (Fegistry, LLC.)
>>> criticising ICC Panel's decisions regarding .gay, .architect, and .fly
>>> (more with the latter two)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/sahjwani-westerdal-to-chalaby-et-al-24sep13-en.pdf
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dev Anand
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/09/2013 17:38, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
>>>>> - objection against .gay dismissed (8 page determination)
>>>>> - objection against .architect is successful (60 page determination)
>>>>> - objection against .fly dismissed (21 page determination)
>>>> I am amazed about the variety of report lengths. 8 pages vs. 60 pages.
>>> Wow!
>>>> 
>>>> Olivier
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