[ALAC] Fwd: Correction: Response to the ALAC Statements on Community Applications

Mon Sep 23 11:39:51 UTC 2013

Dear Rinalia,

I received a call from Cherine Chalaby early this morning acknowledging
the error - and with a promise that we will receive a response soon. The
Board will soon be meeting in Los Angeles (Board retreat).
Kind regards,

Olivier

On 23/09/2013 10:38, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote:
> Dear Olivier,
>
> Given the norms of bureaucracy and Board responses, I doubt that we
> will get a response that is different than the one that has been sent
> to you by Cherine. 
>
> This means that either the NGPC is really confused or they are
> choosing to ignore the issue of community expertise in the CPE. 
>
> Rather than wasting time with the going back and forth on clarifying
> which statement is what, I propose that you send the attached
> correspondence as immediate follow up.  This will quickly de-confuse
> the NGPC in terms of what exactly we mean.  In addition, it will serve
> as the "additional detail regarding these topics" that they are
> expecting us to send to them "in the near future". 
>
> In terms of process, I propose that you put this correspondence up for
> ALAC consensus during the call on Tuesday, after which I urge you to
> send it onwards tout suite.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rinalia
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
> <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>
>     You know what -- you're right! I thought it was actually differently
>     worded because of its filename.
>     NGPC definitely confused. In any case, I have asked for a response on
>     the other Statement.
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Olivier
>
>     On 21/09/2013 19:07, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
>     > Olivier,
>     >
>     > The attached file is exactly the same as the previous one
>     >
>     > Tijani
>     >
>     >
>     > -----Message d'origine-----
>     > De : alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>     <mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>     > [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>     <mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>] De la part de
>     Olivier MJ
>     > Crepin-Leblond
>     > Envoyé : samedi 21 septembre 2013 23:10
>     > À : ALAC Working List
>     > Objet : [ALAC] Fwd: Correction: Response to the ALAC Statements
>     on Community
>     > Applications
>     >
>     > Dear ALAC,
>     >
>     > please be so kind to find attached the response from the Chair
>     of the NGPC
>     > to my earlier reply.
>     > I have since replied that our Statement on "Community Expertise
>     in Community
>     > Priority Evaluation" (AL-ALAC-ST-0813-03-00-EN) still stands and
>     we look
>     > forward to a response from the NGPC on this matter.
>     > Kind regards,
>     >
>     > Olivier
>     >
>     >
>     > -------- Original Message --------
>     > Subject:      Correction: Response to the ALAC Statements on
>     Community
>     > Applications
>     > Date:         Sat, 21 Sep 2013 08:40:39 -0700
>     > From:         Cherine Chalaby <cherine.chalaby@*.org>
>     > To:   Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@*.com>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Dear Olivier,
>     > Please ignore the previous email.  I sent you the wrong attachment.
>     > Please find attached the correct response from the NGPC.
>     > Thanks
>     > Cherine
>     >
>     > From: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
>     <mailto:ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>>
>     > Date: Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:24
>     > To: Cherine Mohsen Chalaby <cherine.chalaby at icann.org
>     <mailto:cherine.chalaby at icann.org>
>     > <mailto:cherine.chalaby at icann.org
>     <mailto:cherine.chalaby at icann.org>>>
>     > Cc: Steve Crocker <Steve at shinkuro.com
>     <mailto:Steve at shinkuro.com> <mailto:Steve at shinkuro.com
>     <mailto:Steve at shinkuro.com>>>,
>     > Secretary <secretary at icann.org <mailto:secretary at icann.org>
>     <mailto:secretary at icann.org <mailto:secretary at icann.org>>>, ICANN
>     At-Large
>     > Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>     <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org
>     <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>>>, Olivier MJ
>     > Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>
>     <mailto:ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>>
>     > Subject: Re: Response to the ALAC Statements on Community
>     Applications
>     >
>     > Dear Cherine,
>     >
>     > thank you very much for your kind reply which I will forward to
>     the ALAC for
>     > their information.
>     >
>     > I should point out that the NGPC might be confused in their response
>     > regarding (1) "Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation"
>     > (AL-ALAC-ST-0813-03-00-EN). This Statement, attached, was
>     actually sent to
>     > you and the NGPC. It was not sent to the Panel Firm.
>     >
>     > The Statement which the ALAC has sent to the Panel Firm is
>     another Statement
>     > entitled "ALAC Statement on the Community Priority Evaluation
>     > (CPE) Guidelines Update from ICANN" (AL-ALAC-ST-0913-01-00-EN).
>     I enclose a
>     > copy of it here for your information - and you will notice it
>     looks at the
>     > subject from an entirely different angle.
>     >
>     > On behalf of the ICANN At-Large Advisory Committee, we look
>     forward to the
>     > NGPC's response on the ALAC's "Community Expertise in Community
>     Priority
>     > Evaluation" Statement.
>     >
>     > Best regards,
>     >
>     > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>     > ALAC Chair
>     >
>     >
>     > On 21/09/2013 08:29, Cherine Chalaby wrote:
>     >> Dear Olivier,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On behalf of the New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC), I thank you for
>     >> providing the two recent ALAC Statements regarding:  (1) Community
>     >> Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation; and (2) Preferential
>     >> Treatment for Community Applications in String Contention.  The
>     NGPC
>     >> appreciates the attention the ALAC has given to these two
>     topics and
>     >> has reviewed the statements carefully.  The NGPC understands that
>     >> additional detail regarding these topics may be sent to it in
>     the near
>     >> future.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Please find attached the full response of the NGPC to the ALAC
>     Statements.
>     >>
>     >> All the best,
>     >>
>     >> Cherine
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>     --
>     Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>     http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>
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Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
http://www.gih.com/ocl.html