[ALAC] Fwd: Correction: Response to the ALAC Statements on Community Applications

Mon Sep 30 07:34:10 UTC 2013

Olivier: Any update on NGPC response on the statement?

ALAC: ICANN has published finalized CPE guidelines and says that community
input has been incorporated by the EIU. Please have a look and share with
the group on whether you think they did address the ALAC's comments (click
on link below)

http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/announcements-and-media/announcement-27sep13-en

No redlined version provided to indicate what has changed.

Best regards,

Rinalia
 On Sep 23, 2013 7:39 PM, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com> wrote:

>  Dear Rinalia,
>
> I received a call from Cherine Chalaby early this morning acknowledging
> the error - and with a promise that we will receive a response soon. The
> Board will soon be meeting in Los Angeles (Board retreat).
> Kind regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 23/09/2013 10:38, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote:
>
>   Dear Olivier,
>
>  Given the norms of bureaucracy and Board responses, I doubt that we will
> get a response that is different than the one that has been sent to you by
> Cherine.
>
> This means that either the NGPC is really confused or they are choosing to
> ignore the issue of community expertise in the CPE.
>
> Rather than wasting time with the going back and forth on clarifying which
> statement is what, I propose that you send the attached correspondence as
> immediate follow up.  This will quickly de-confuse the NGPC in terms of
> what exactly we mean.  In addition, it will serve as the "additional detail
> regarding these topics" that they are expecting us to send to them "in the
> near future".
>
>  In terms of process, I propose that you put this correspondence up for
> ALAC consensus during the call on Tuesday, after which I urge you to send
> it onwards tout suite.
>
>  Best regards,
>
> Rinalia
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>wrote:
>
>> You know what -- you're right! I thought it was actually differently
>> worded because of its filename.
>> NGPC definitely confused. In any case, I have asked for a response on
>> the other Statement.
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> On 21/09/2013 19:07, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
>> > Olivier,
>> >
>> > The attached file is exactly the same as the previous one
>> >
>> > Tijani
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Message d'origine-----
>> > De : alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> > [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Olivier MJ
>> > Crepin-Leblond
>> > Envoyé : samedi 21 septembre 2013 23:10
>> > À : ALAC Working List
>>  > Objet : [ALAC] Fwd: Correction: Response to the ALAC Statements on
>> Community
>>  > Applications
>> >
>> > Dear ALAC,
>> >
>> > please be so kind to find attached the response from the Chair of the
>> NGPC
>> > to my earlier reply.
>> > I have since replied that our Statement on "Community Expertise in
>> Community
>> > Priority Evaluation" (AL-ALAC-ST-0813-03-00-EN) still stands and we look
>> > forward to a response from the NGPC on this matter.
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Olivier
>> >
>> >
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject:      Correction: Response to the ALAC Statements on Community
>> > Applications
>> > Date:         Sat, 21 Sep 2013 08:40:39 -0700
>> > From:         Cherine Chalaby <cherine.chalaby@*.org><cherine.chalaby@*.org>
>> > To:   Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@*.com> <ocl@*.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Olivier,
>> > Please ignore the previous email.  I sent you the wrong attachment.
>> > Please find attached the correct response from the NGPC.
>> > Thanks
>> > Cherine
>> >
>> > From: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>
>> > Date: Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:24
>> > To: Cherine Mohsen Chalaby <cherine.chalaby at icann.org
>> > <mailto:cherine.chalaby at icann.org>>
>> > Cc: Steve Crocker <Steve at shinkuro.com <mailto:Steve at shinkuro.com>>,
>> > Secretary <secretary at icann.org <mailto:secretary at icann.org>>, ICANN
>> At-Large
>> > Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>>,
>> Olivier MJ
>> > Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>
>> > Subject: Re: Response to the ALAC Statements on Community Applications
>> >
>> > Dear Cherine,
>> >
>> > thank you very much for your kind reply which I will forward to the
>> ALAC for
>> > their information.
>> >
>> > I should point out that the NGPC might be confused in their response
>> > regarding (1) "Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation"
>> > (AL-ALAC-ST-0813-03-00-EN). This Statement, attached, was actually sent
>> to
>> > you and the NGPC. It was not sent to the Panel Firm.
>> >
>> > The Statement which the ALAC has sent to the Panel Firm is another
>> Statement
>> > entitled "ALAC Statement on the Community Priority Evaluation
>> > (CPE) Guidelines Update from ICANN" (AL-ALAC-ST-0913-01-00-EN). I
>> enclose a
>> > copy of it here for your information - and you will notice it looks at
>> the
>> > subject from an entirely different angle.
>> >
>> > On behalf of the ICANN At-Large Advisory Committee, we look forward to
>> the
>> > NGPC's response on the ALAC's "Community Expertise in Community Priority
>> > Evaluation" Statement.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>> > ALAC Chair
>> >
>> >
>> > On 21/09/2013 08:29, Cherine Chalaby wrote:
>> >> Dear Olivier,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On behalf of the New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC), I thank you for
>> >> providing the two recent ALAC Statements regarding:  (1) Community
>> >> Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation; and (2) Preferential
>> >> Treatment for Community Applications in String Contention.  The NGPC
>> >> appreciates the attention the ALAC has given to these two topics and
>> >> has reviewed the statements carefully.  The NGPC understands that
>> >> additional detail regarding these topics may be sent to it in the near
>> >> future.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Please find attached the full response of the NGPC to the ALAC
>> Statements.
>> >>
>> >> All the best,
>> >>
>> >> Cherine
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>  --
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>>
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>
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