[ALAC] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation

Wed Oct 9 01:46:12 UTC 2013

Dear Olivier,

Given the support from fellow ALAC members, what would be the follow up on
this matter? Will you be sending a correspondence to the NGPC Chair?

Best regards,

Rinalia
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Holly Raiche" <h.raiche at internode.on.net>
Date: Oct 4, 2013 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in
Community Priority Evaluation
To: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
Cc: "ALAC Working List" <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>

++ Rinalia, JJS, Evan and Carlton. At least ask for particulars

Holly
On 03/10/2013, at 10:32 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote:

> +1 to JJS' advice.
>
> I'm not sure it is a reconsideration we request.  I should think what we
do
> is per Rinalia ask for further particulars on the EIU process to fulfill
> obligations. So list the gaps identified and for each, ask for explicit
> detailing of the process to mitigate.
>
> -Carlton
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> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Jean-Jacques Subrenat <jjs at fastmail.fm
>wrote:
>
>> Dear Rinalia,
>>
>> Why did I not immediately spell out a desirable next step? Being the
first
>> to react, I wondered if my stance would be isolated, as has happened to
me
>> more than once.
>>
>> I share your position that we should press the case and request whatever
>> seems necessary and justified.
>>
>> Jean-Jacques.
>>
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Rinalia Abdul Rahim" <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>
>> À: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs at fastmail.fm>
>> Cc: "ALAC Working List" <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "Olivier MJ
>> Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com>
>> Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Octobre 2013 21:32:54
>> Objet: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in
>> Community Priority Evaluation
>>
>>
>>
>> JJS,
>>
>> Legality aside, there are gaps in disclosure to the community on various
>> aspects including how the EIU fulfill certain criteria of interest to the
>> ALAC.
>>
>> The board's letter to the ALAC contains a cut and paste description of
the
>> EIU, which we already know and which does not address the gaps.
>>
>> I am not satisfied with the board's response. It is perfectly fine for
>> them to reject the offer of community expertise and the rationale is
>> understandable, but the concern that led to the drafting of the statement
>> stands.
>>
>> The question now is as follows:
>> 1. Do we press the case and request for disclosure based on the issues
>> that have been pre-identified in the follow-up correspondence?
>> 2. Should we be cowed into not pressing the case because the action may
>> affect how the Board reacts to future advice on other issues?
>>
>> Rinalia
>> On Oct 2, 2013 5:10 PM, "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" < jjs at fastmail.fm >
wrote:
>>
>>
>> Olivier & All,
>>
>> - from a legal standpoint, the process which led to the choice of EIU
>> seems watertight.
>>
>> - As for ALAC's offer, it is rejected without the NGPC feeling the need
to
>> provide even the semblance of an explanation:
>> "The NGPC appreciates the offer made by the ALAC to provide community
>> volunteers to serves as Panel members or advisors. However, the NGPC
>> determined that it would not be appropriate to introduce external parties
>> to the EIU’s evaluation process."
>> In other words, there's nothing to see here, so just move on, you're
>> holding up the traffic.
>>
>> JJ.
>>
>>
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" < ocl at gih.com >
>> À: "ALAC Working List" < alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org >
>> Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Octobre 2013 15:25:41
>> Objet: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community
>> Priority Evaluation
>>
>>
>> Dear ALAC members,
>>
>> please be so kind to find attached the response from the Chair of the
>> Board new gTLD Program Committee (NGPC) to our ALAC Statement on
>> Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation:
>> http://atlarge.icann.org/correspondence/correspondence-09aug13-en.htm
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>> ALAC Chair
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community
>> Priority Evaluation
>> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:15:52 -0700
>> From: Cherine Chalaby < cherine.chalaby at icann.org >
>> To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond < ocl at gih.com >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 30/09/2013 20:34, Cherine Chalaby wrote:
>>>> Dear Olivier,
>>>> Please find attached the NGPC response to the ALAC Statement on
>>>> Community
>>>> Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation.
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Cherine
>>>>
>>>> On 11/08/2013 15:29, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" < ocl at gih.com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Att:
>>>>> Steve Crocker - ICANN Chair
>>>>> Cherine Chalaby - Chair of the Board new gTLD Program Committee
>>>>> Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Steve,
>>>>> Dear Cherine,
>>>>>
>>>>> please be so kind to find attached the "ALAC Statement on Community
>>>>> Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation".
>>>>>
>>>>> This Advice is provided to the Board before ALAC ratification due to
>>>>> its
>>>>> time sensitive nature. It should be read in conjuction with our "ALAC
>>>>> Statement on the Preferential Treatment for Community Applications in
>>>>> String Contention", sent under separate cover. At-Large Staff will
>>>>> confirm results of the ALAC vote when it is concluded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please be so kind to confirm receipt and consideration of its contents
>>>>> in the discussions of the Board new gTLD Program Committee.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>>>>> ALAC Chair
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>>> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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