[ALAC] Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation

Thu Oct 3 00:32:26 UTC 2013

+1 to JJS' advice.

I'm not sure it is a reconsideration we request.  I should think what we do
is per Rinalia ask for further particulars on the EIU process to fulfill
obligations. So list the gaps identified and for each, ask for explicit
detailing of the process to mitigate.

-Carlton

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On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Jean-Jacques Subrenat <jjs at fastmail.fm>wrote:

> Dear Rinalia,
>
> Why did I not immediately spell out a desirable next step? Being the first
> to react, I wondered if my stance would be isolated, as has happened to me
> more than once.
>
> I share your position that we should press the case and request whatever
> seems necessary and justified.
>
> Jean-Jacques.
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Rinalia Abdul Rahim" <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>
> À: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs at fastmail.fm>
> Cc: "ALAC Working List" <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "Olivier MJ
> Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com>
> Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Octobre 2013 21:32:54
> Objet: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in
> Community Priority Evaluation
>
>
>
> JJS,
>
> Legality aside, there are gaps in disclosure to the community on various
> aspects including how the EIU fulfill certain criteria of interest to the
> ALAC.
>
> The board's letter to the ALAC contains a cut and paste description of the
> EIU, which we already know and which does not address the gaps.
>
> I am not satisfied with the board's response. It is perfectly fine for
> them to reject the offer of community expertise and the rationale is
> understandable, but the concern that led to the drafting of the statement
> stands.
>
> The question now is as follows:
> 1. Do we press the case and request for disclosure based on the issues
> that have been pre-identified in the follow-up correspondence?
> 2. Should we be cowed into not pressing the case because the action may
> affect how the Board reacts to future advice on other issues?
>
> Rinalia
> On Oct 2, 2013 5:10 PM, "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" < jjs at fastmail.fm > wrote:
>
>
> Olivier & All,
>
> - from a legal standpoint, the process which led to the choice of EIU
> seems watertight.
>
> - As for ALAC's offer, it is rejected without the NGPC feeling the need to
> provide even the semblance of an explanation:
> "The NGPC appreciates the offer made by the ALAC to provide community
> volunteers to serves as Panel members or advisors. However, the NGPC
> determined that it would not be appropriate to introduce external parties
> to the EIU’s evaluation process."
> In other words, there's nothing to see here, so just move on, you're
> holding up the traffic.
>
> JJ.
>
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" < ocl at gih.com >
> À: "ALAC Working List" < alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org >
> Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Octobre 2013 15:25:41
> Objet: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community
> Priority Evaluation
>
>
> Dear ALAC members,
>
> please be so kind to find attached the response from the Chair of the
> Board new gTLD Program Committee (NGPC) to our ALAC Statement on
> Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation:
> http://atlarge.icann.org/correspondence/correspondence-09aug13-en.htm
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
> ALAC Chair
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community
> Priority Evaluation
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:15:52 -0700
> From: Cherine Chalaby < cherine.chalaby at icann.org >
> To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond < ocl at gih.com >
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >On 30/09/2013 20:34, Cherine Chalaby wrote:
> >> Dear Olivier,
> >> Please find attached the NGPC response to the ALAC Statement on
> >>Community
> >> Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation.
> >> Best regards,
> >> Cherine
> >>
> >> On 11/08/2013 15:29, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" < ocl at gih.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Att:
> >>> Steve Crocker - ICANN Chair
> >>> Cherine Chalaby - Chair of the Board new gTLD Program Committee
> >>>Committee
> >>>
> >>> Dear Steve,
> >>> Dear Cherine,
> >>>
> >>> please be so kind to find attached the "ALAC Statement on Community
> >>> Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation".
> >>>
> >>> This Advice is provided to the Board before ALAC ratification due to
> >>>its
> >>> time sensitive nature. It should be read in conjuction with our "ALAC
> >>> Statement on the Preferential Treatment for Community Applications in
> >>> String Contention", sent under separate cover. At-Large Staff will
> >>> confirm results of the ALAC vote when it is concluded.
> >>>
> >>> Please be so kind to confirm receipt and consideration of its contents
> >>> in the discussions of the Board new gTLD Program Committee.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
> >>> ALAC Chair
> >
> >--
> >Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
> > http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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