[ALAC] ALS decertification

[Alan Greenberg]

Thanks Yaovi. I agree that adding the line about 
ISOC makes the disappearance clearer, but I think 
it also adds something that could get us into trouble.

The intent is that they were two separate 
motions. Just sent in a single e-mail.

Alan

At 28/05/2013 02:29 PM, Yaovi Atohoun wrote:

>Dear Alan,
>
>My concern is that we are saying  "   no longer 
>SEEMS to exist ...." . Are all our own 
>considerations enough to decertify that ALS? My 
>intention is to have more consideration.
>
>Finally we can keep your content but  I would 
>like to suggest that you split the single  motion into two motions.
>
>Thank you
>Yaovi
>
>De : Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>À : Yaovi Atohoun <yaovito at yahoo.fr>
>Cc : ALAC Working List <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>Envoyé le : Mardi 28 mai 2013 19h03
>Objet : Re: [ALAC] ALS decertification
>
>I would strongly disagree with such a change. 
>Whether ISOC Pakistan is using the term Internet 
>Society properly or not is not really our 
>concern. The Internet Society of China, one of 
>our esteemed co-host of the Beijing meeting is 
>not affiliated with ISOC, and that is not an issue with ICANN.
>
>Their use of the term COULD be used to make the 
>case that they are attempting some sort of 
>fraud, but with no more web site or contact, 
>that would be difficult to prove, I suspect.
>
>Alan
>
>At 28/05/2013 01:28 PM, Yaovi Atohoun wrote:
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I would like to propose a small amendmend (in 
>>color)  to the second part of the motion
>>
>>===
>>Whereas the Internet Society has also confirmed 
>>that  the official representative of the  At-Large Structure: )
>>Internet Society Pakistan Chapter no longer seems to exist.......
>>
>>===
>>I support all the rest.
>>
>>Yaovi
>>
>>
>>De : Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>>À : ALAC Working List <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>Envoyé le : Mardi 28 mai 2013 17h48
>>Objet : [ALAC] ALS decertification
>>
>>I submit the following two draft motions for the consideration of the
>>ALAC.  Alan
>>
>>===========
>>Whereas the official representative of the At-Large Structure:
>>Internet Users Network (Tokyo) has requested that the At-Large
>>Structure (ALS) be decertified as a preparatory step to the Internet
>>Users Network (Tokyo) being dissolved;
>>
>>The ALAC, in accordance with its rules, decertifies the Internet
>>Users Network (Tokyo) as an ICANN At-Large ALS. Such decertification
>>is done without prejudice to any future re-application of this
>>organization for certification as an ALS, or the application for ALS
>>certification of any new group bearing the same name.
>>
>>
>>
>>===========
>>Whereas the official representative of the At-Large Structure: )
>>Internet Society Pakistan Chapter no longer seems to exist, its
>>domain name (isocpk.org) has expired, and all communication with
>>identified leaders of the ALS has failed;
>>
>>Whereas other At-Large participants from Pakistan have verified that
>>the Internet Society Pakistan Chapter no longer exists;
>>
>>The ALAC, in accordance with its rules, decertifies Internet Society
>>Pakistan Chapter as an ICANN At-Large ALS. Such decertification is
>>done without prejudice to any future re-application of this
>>organization for certification as an ALS, or the application for ALS
>>certification of any new group bearing the same name.
>>
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