<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Comments left.<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Thanks for the starting point.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">I think the biggest challenge (IMO) is focus.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">ALAC and its sub-groups need to stop worrying about things that are mainly of interest to those who buy and sell domains (closed generics, community applications) and pay more attention to where we can have the most impact (such as public education).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">As one example... regarding UA.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Rather than ALAC wading in at a policy level regarding technical incompatibilities between private sector actors (ie, between TLD registries and the websites that don't accept them). ALAC has a major role to play in documenting these incompatibilities. If dot-gallery email addresses aren't valid on the American Airlines website (to use Greg's example), we should be documenting that and alerting end-users of where the new domains don't work. It's harder work than a mere policy statement and it's embarrassing to the parties involved ... but maybe our most effective path is to embarrass players into action rather than trying to bend ICANN policy or cheerleading its sales campaigns.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Cheers,<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:center"><div style="text-align:left">Evan Leibovitch, <span style="font-size:12.8px">Toronto Canada</span></div><div style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:12.8px">@evanleibovitch / </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">@el56</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 9:55 AM Greg Shatan [NARALO] via NA-Discuss <<a href="mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have now populated the draft with my thoughts and my impressions of the possible "NARALO view" on these topics.  Please read and react before this afternoon's panel where it will be the basis of my remarks.  Thanks!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 1:19 PM Greg Shatan [NARALO] <<a href="mailto:gregshatanalac@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanalac@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Second request to provide end-user perspectives on the next round of new gTLDs.  I've created a Google Doc that you can put your thoughts into, or you can respond to this email if you prefer.  I haven't written anything yet but I will (particularly if no one else does).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The link to our responsive document is <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1abHgHXAp1cR6x47gkdOjZy2bza3zbb_exW4MS2FUMDA/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1abHgHXAp1cR6x47gkdOjZy2bza3zbb_exW4MS2FUMDA/edit?usp=sharing</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The topics are as follows:</div><div class="gmail_default"><span id="m_747014196377615905m_5925728703936485365gmail-docs-internal-guid-b02b8b8e-7fff-60b9-a0ea-8d459bf5466a"><ol style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:decimal;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Experiences from the previous round</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><span>   </span></span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><span>     </span></span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><span>     </span></span></p></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:decimal;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">RALO expectations and needs from the next round</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:decimal;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">How should the RALOs prepare for the next round?</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><span>       </span></span></p></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:decimal;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Promoting the new round (the end user perspective)</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:decimal;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Specific issues in the next round</span></p></li><ol style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Applicant Support</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-roman;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">IDNs/Universal Acceptance</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-roman;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Community applications</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-roman;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Closed Generics</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-roman;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Private Auctions</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-roman;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">ALAC Standing to Object</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-roman;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></li></ol><li dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;list-style-type:lower-alpha;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Anything else?</span></p></li><ol style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-roman;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><span>     </span></span></p></li></ol></ol></ol><div><br></div><div>I know you have opinions!  Please share them.  Thank you!</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div></span></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Greg Shatan [NARALO]</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanalac@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanalac@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 4:24 PM<br>Subject: RESPONSES REQUESTED: An end user perspective: The next gTLD application window<br>To: NA Discuss <<a href="mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br></div><br><br><div dir="auto">NARALO Members,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please review the email below and reply to all with your thoughts ASAP. Since the responses will be used by me in a discussion at 1:45 PM Monday, and Monday morning is very full for NARALO, it would be best to have this substantially developed by Sunday evening. (!)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Than<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">k</span> you!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Greg</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">ICANN At-Large Staff via Secretariat</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>></span><br>Date: Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 03:24<br>Subject: [Secretariat] **IMPORTANT ACTION RALO Leaders ** | ICANN 77 Policy Session: An end user perspective: The next gTLD application window<br>To: <a href="mailto:secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> <secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.o</div>





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 RALO leaders, in the upcoming days, please consult your members and be prepared to share your input during the ICANN77 session.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">**<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:normal" lang="EN-US">At ICANN77, the ALAC is hosting a community session on the
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 on<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Monday, 12 June, 13:45 - 15:00.</span><span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:normal" lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:normal" lang="EN-US"> The
 session will be a round table discussion of the five ICANN RALOs on the new gTLD program. Focusing on topics such as:</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></h2>
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<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Promoting the new round<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;vertical-align:baseline">
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