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    I agree with you Bill,<br>
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    There is no evidence that such a TLD is usefull and brings an added
    value. There is evidence that DNS abusers stand near in the back
    office of Dot.Zip though.<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Louis Houle</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 2023-05-29 à 17:31, Bill Jouris via
      NA-Discuss a écrit :<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">"<span><span
                style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
                sans-serif;"> It appears that some ICANN stakeholders
                feel they can make money from an expanded TLD namespace
                and potentially add value to end users too." </span></span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span
              style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
              sans-serif;">I am struggling to see the potential added
              value of a TLD like .ZIP.  Well, except for someone
              desiring to propagate some malware, of course.  How much
              money from DNS Abusers there may be to be made, I don't
              know.  But it appears that someone thinks there are enough
              would-be DNS Abusers out there to make such a TLD
              profitable. </span></span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span
              style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
              sans-serif;">I would say that, if someone wants to
              register a TLD which duplicates a widely used file
              extension, the burden should be on them to make a very,
              very persuasive case for why such a TLD is needed.  If
              ICANN's current procedures do not provide for such a
              review, well then the procedures are clearly in need of
              revision.</span></span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span
              style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
              sans-serif;">Bill Jouris</span></span></div>
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          <div> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 05:49:44 AM PDT, David Mackey
            via NA-Discuss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"><na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org></a>
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                <div dir="ltr">Evan, 
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                  <div>Thank you for bringing up the topic of TLD and
                    File Extension namespace collisions. I had not
                    considered this topic before, but I believe
                    it merits attention. </div>
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                  <div>The ZIP domain is only one example of the more
                    general problem where TLD and File Extension
                    namespaces. Other examples coming from ccTLD
                    namespace are .PL (Poland vs Perl Script) and .SH
                    (Saint Helena and Shell Script). An interesting
                    detailed discussion on this complexity can be found
                    <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                      target="_blank"
                      href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35930160"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">here</a>. The fact there
                    are already namespace collisions, does not diminish
                    the need for us to pay attention to it when
                    expanding TLD namespace. </div>
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                  <div>From a strictly end user's perspective, I think
                    it's safe to conclude that TLD and File Extension
                    namespace collisions do have the potential to add
                    cognitive load to an end user's ability to safely
                    navigate domain name space. </div>
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                  <div>ICANN's policy development takes into account a
                    number of different stakeholders. It appears that
                    some ICANN stakeholders feel they can make money
                    from an expanded TLD namespace and potentially add
                    value to end users too. As with many things in life,
                    there are tradeoffs to be made. </div>
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                  <div>I don't have a strong opinion about ICANN policy
                    at the moment, but it does seem wise for those
                    stakeholders that wish to make money from a new TLD
                    namespace asset (e.g. ZIP), to be aware of end user
                    harms that can result from their new asset. </div>
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                  <div>An end user market that does not trust a new
                    domain name because of abuse due to File Extension
                    confusion will diminish the value of the new TLD
                    asset for any business which chooses to purchase
                    this asset.  Yes, marketing can cover up DNS abuse
                    problems, but it may be wise for business
                    stakeholders to avoid the use of high risk new
                    domain names to achieve their business goals. This
                    type of feedback is not directly connected to ICANN
                    policy of course, but market forces can be useful.
                    The ICANN End User community can help raise
                    awareness, which you have started with your email,
                    even if we don't have effective policy mechanisms in
                    place to avoid potential future problems. </div>
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                  <div>By the way, is NA-Discuss the right mailing list
                    for this discussion? Would this thread be better in
                    the CPWG mailing list?</div>
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                  <div>Cheers,</div>
                  <div>David</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="yiv7826900065gmail_attr">On
                      Mon, May 29, 2023 at 7:34 AM Louis Houle via
                      NA-Discuss <<a rel="nofollow noopener
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                      <div> Indeed. And as Ross pointed it, I can't see
                        the real benefits of such a TLD but I do see the
                        risks it brings!<br clear="none">
                        <pre>Louis Houle</pre>
                        <div>Le 2023-05-28 à 20:12, Jonathan Zuck via
                          NA-Discuss a écrit :<br clear="none">
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                        <blockquote type="cite"> Certainly seems
                          worthwhile to me and outweighs the value of
                          having a .zip domain
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                          <div
                            id="yiv7826900065m_-5747761940736362124ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><b>Jonathan
                              Zuck</b>
                            <div><i>Director</i>, Future of Work Project</div>
                            <div>Innovators Network Foundation</div>
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                              Evan Leibovitch <a rel="nofollow noopener
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                              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 28, 2023 8:09:11
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                              <b>To:</b> Jonathan Zuck <a rel="nofollow
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                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NA-Discuss]
                              Protecting the public interest: dot-zip</font>
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                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"> Very
                                likely the name collision assessment
                                came up clean -- against other domains.</div>
                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"> But
                                that's not the issue here.</div>
                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"> Is
                                there any requirement for applicants to
                                do due diligence regarding collisions
                                with other common non-DNS computer uses
                                of the applied string?</div>
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                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"> There
                                are some precedents, notably dot-onion
                                being unavailable to reduce collision
                                with the TOR network (which is certainly
                                out of ICANN's jurisdiction).<br
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                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"> But I
                                don't know if, for instance, there would
                                be any inherent ICANN-based opposition
                                to anyone applying for, say, dot-exe or
                                dot-bat (which, like zip, is also a
                                dictionary word).</div>
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                                Perhaps there is room to develop advice
                                to have a mechanism that measures
                                evaluates conflict not just with other
                                domains, but also common computer uses
                                that could if implemented cause pubic
                                confusion or harm.<br clear="none">
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                                sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"> There
                                are a LOT of file extensions and not all
                                need to be protected, but surely the
                                most common file extensions (and perhaps
                                also command-line utilities) need
                                protections.</div>
                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"> I see
                                that dot-run is delegated, which could
                                affect Linux systems (which run a lot of
                                the Internet's infrastructure).</div>
                              <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"> So is
                                dot-mov which is a popular Apple file
                                extension for videos.<br clear="none">
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                                Anyway, I leave it with NARALO's ALAC
                                reps to determine if this issue is
                                sufficiently end-user to care about and
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                                              style="text-align:left;">Evan
                                              Leibovitch, <span
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                                                Canada</span></div>
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                                              style="text-align:left;"><span
style="font-size:12.8px;">@evanleibovitch / </span> <span
                                                style="font-size:12.8px;">@el56</span></div>
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                              <div dir="ltr">On Sun, May 28, 2023 at
                                7:35 PM Jonathan Zuck <<a
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                                  <div>I wonder what sort of risk
                                    assessment .ZIP has for the name
                                    collision study.</div>
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                                    <b>Jonathan Zuck</b>
                                    <div><i>Director</i>, Future of Work
                                      Project</div>
                                    <div>Innovators Network Foundation</div>
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                                      <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 27,
                                      2023 4:18:34 PM<br clear="none">
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                                      <b>Subject:</b> [NA-Discuss]
                                      Protecting the public interest:
                                      dot-zip</font>
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                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);">While
                                        my hopes that ALAC will champion
                                        this are dim, and ICANN itself
                                        is even less likely to act, I
                                        draw your attention to a policy
                                        goof that is already causing
                                        public harm and is likely to
                                        cause far more.</div>
                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"><br
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                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);">Now
                                        anyone can buy a dot-zip
                                        second-level domain, ie evan.zip
                                        or naralo.zip<br clear="none">
                                      </div>
                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"><br
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                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);">As
                                        anyone who works with computers
                                        should know, long before dot-zip
                                        was a domain it was a very
                                        popular computer-file extension
                                        to denote something that
                                        contained a file (or collection
                                        of files) in compressed form.
                                        Such a collection could easily
                                        contain malicious data or code.<br
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                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"><br
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                                      </div>
                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);">Is
                                        anyone seeing the problem?
                                        People could be sent
                                        "attachments" that are really
                                        URLs and URLs that are really
                                        attachments. The potential for
                                        end-user confusion and harm is
                                        immense.<br clear="none">
                                      </div>
                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"><br
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                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);">Here
                                        are two videos that explain the
                                        situation well:<br clear="none">
                                        <a rel="nofollow noopener
                                          noreferrer" shape="rect"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCVJsz7EODA"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCVJsz7EODA</a><br
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                                        <a rel="nofollow noopener
                                          noreferrer" shape="rect"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V82lHNsSPww"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V82lHNsSPww</a></div>
                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"><br
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                                      <div style="font-family:tahoma,
                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);">Is
                                        anyone in domain-world looking
                                        at this?</div>
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                                        sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148);"><br
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                                                    style="text-align:center;">
                                                    <div
                                                      style="text-align:left;">Evan
                                                      Leibovitch, <span
style="font-size:12.8px;">Toronto Canada</span></div>
                                                    <div
                                                      style="text-align:left;"><span
style="font-size:12.8px;">@evanleibovitch / </span> <span
                                                        style="font-size:12.8px;">@el56</span></div>
                                                  </div>
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                                        </div>
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