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    Indeed. And as Ross pointed it, I can't see the real benefits of
    such a TLD but I do see the risks it brings!<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Louis Houle</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 2023-05-28 à 20:12, Jonathan Zuck
      via NA-Discuss a écrit :<br>
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      Certainly seems worthwhile to me and outweighs the value of having
      a .zip domain
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      <div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir="auto"><b>Jonathan Zuck</b>
        <div dir="auto"><i>Director</i>, Future of Work Project</div>
        <div dir="auto">Innovators Network Foundation</div>
        <div dir="auto"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org">www.InnovatorsNetwork.org</a></div>
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          face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Evan
          Leibovitch <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:evan@telly.org"><evan@telly.org></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 28, 2023 8:09:11 PM<br>
          <b>To:</b> Jonathan Zuck <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org"><JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org></a><br>
          <b>Cc:</b> NARALO Discussion List
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          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NA-Discuss] Protecting the public
          interest: dot-zip</font>
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            Very likely the name collision assessment came up clean --
            against other domains.</div>
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            But that's not the issue here.</div>
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            Is there any requirement for applicants to do due diligence
            regarding collisions with other common non-DNS computer uses
            of the applied string?</div>
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            There are some precedents, notably dot-onion being
            unavailable to reduce collision with the TOR network (which
            is certainly out of ICANN's jurisdiction).<br>
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            But I don't know if, for instance, there would be any
            inherent ICANN-based opposition to anyone applying for, say,
            dot-exe or dot-bat (which, like zip, is also a dictionary
            word).</div>
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            Perhaps there is room to develop advice to have a mechanism
            that measures evaluates conflict not just with other
            domains, but also common computer uses that could if
            implemented cause pubic confusion or harm.<br>
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            There are a LOT of file extensions and not all need to be
            protected, but surely the most common file extensions (and
            perhaps also command-line utilities) need protections.</div>
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            I see that dot-run is delegated, which could affect Linux
            systems (which run a lot of the Internet's infrastructure).</div>
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            So is dot-mov which is a popular Apple file extension for
            videos.<br>
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            Anyway, I leave it with NARALO's ALAC reps to determine if
            this issue is sufficiently end-user to care about and
            investigate.<br>
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                        <div style="text-align:left">Evan Leibovitch, <span
                            style="font-size:12.8px">Toronto Canada</span></div>
                        <div style="text-align:left"><span
                            style="font-size:12.8px">@evanleibovitch / </span>
                          <span style="font-size:12.8px">@el56</span></div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Sun, May 28, 2023 at
            7:35 PM Jonathan Zuck <<a
              href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="auto">I wonder what sort of risk assessment .ZIP
                has for the name collision study.</div>
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                <b>Jonathan Zuck</b>
                <div dir="auto"><i>Director</i>, Future of Work Project</div>
                <div dir="auto">Innovators Network Foundation</div>
                <div dir="auto"><a
                    href="http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.InnovatorsNetwork.org</a></div>
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                  color="#000000"><b>From:</b> NA-Discuss <<a
                    href="mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>
                  on behalf of Evan Leibovitch via NA-Discuss <<a
                    href="mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 27, 2023 4:18:34 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> NARALO Discussion List <<a
                    href="mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [NA-Discuss] Protecting the public
                  interest: dot-zip</font>
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                  <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;
                    color:rgb(11,83,148)">While my hopes that ALAC will
                    champion this are dim, and ICANN itself is even less
                    likely to act, I draw your attention to a policy
                    goof that is already causing public harm and is
                    likely to cause far more.</div>
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                    color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br>
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                  <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;
                    color:rgb(11,83,148)">Now anyone can buy a dot-zip
                    second-level domain, ie evan.zip or naralo.zip<br>
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                    color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br>
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                    color:rgb(11,83,148)">As anyone who works with
                    computers should know, long before dot-zip was a
                    domain it was a very popular computer-file extension
                    to denote something that contained a file (or
                    collection of files) in compressed form. Such a
                    collection could easily contain malicious data or
                    code.<br>
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                    color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br>
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                  <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;
                    color:rgb(11,83,148)">Is anyone seeing the problem?
                    People could be sent "attachments" that are really
                    URLs and URLs that are really attachments. The
                    potential for end-user confusion and harm is
                    immense.<br>
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                  <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;
                    color:rgb(11,83,148)">Here are two videos that
                    explain the situation well:<br>
                    <a
                      href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCVJsz7EODA"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCVJsz7EODA</a><br>
                    <a
                      href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V82lHNsSPww"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V82lHNsSPww</a></div>
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                    color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br>
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                  <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;
                    color:rgb(11,83,148)">Is anyone in domain-world
                    looking at this?</div>
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                                <div style="text-align:left">Evan
                                  Leibovitch, <span
                                    style="font-size:12.8px">Toronto
                                    Canada</span></div>
                                <div style="text-align:left"><span
                                    style="font-size:12.8px">@evanleibovitch
                                    / </span>
                                  <span style="font-size:12.8px">@el56</span></div>
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