[NA-Discuss] [lac-discuss-en] [EURO-Discuss] [APAC-Discuss] [ALAC-Announce] IMPORTANT - deuxieme / second / Segundo session - FIRST ATLAS III Webinars in EN with ES, FR interpretation

sivasubramanian muthusamy 6.internet at gmail.com
Mon Apr 29 05:13:04 UTC 2019


On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 10:33 AM Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan at unam.mx>
wrote:

> ... and in that meeting in London, a call for the At Large to support
> ICANN in becoming more effective became a point of agreement "to call on
> ICANN to accept At Large advice more effectively" thus leading to a
> continual side-show.
>

Perhaps it takes more than one AC to make this call?

Then came the At Large Review whose conclusions again were not taken on
> board. That trend must be reversed.
>

May be it is time we called for a wider review on Stakeholder balance with
particular emphasis on how ALAC is systematically weakened by those wearing
AtLarge hats that don't fit.


> Alejandro Pisanty
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> *Desde:* sivasubramanian muthusamy [6.internet at gmail.com]
> *Enviado el:* domingo, 28 de abril de 2019 23:51
> *Hasta:* Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
> *CC:* Roberto Gaetano; lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org; ICANN ALAC
> list; Discussion for At-Large Europe; afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org;
> APRALO; na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] [EURO-Discuss] [APAC-Discuss]
> [ALAC-Announce] IMPORTANT - deuxieme / second / Segundo session - FIRST
> ATLAS III Webinars in EN with ES, FR interpretation
>
> Ok
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 9:28 AM Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan at unam.mx>
> wrote:
>
>> Roberto,
>>
>> all very good points. One to be emphasized, one added:
>>
>> 1. the money spent is not ICANN's alone; it is from beginning to end
>> registrants' money (but for the always paltry contributions from ccTLDs and
>> RIRs)- and we as At Large are supposed to take most care of it as we claim
>> to represent registrants and users;
>>
>> 2. most users we represent tell us repeatedly that what they want from
>> ICANN is for ICANN to be effective. They care very little, if at all, if
>> the At Large is representative, balanced, what its internal processes are.
>>
>
> For ICANN to be effective, effective not for one stakeholder group,
> effective for the good of the DNS, a balance needs to prevail. A weak
> AtLarge, further weakened by arguments to block a million or two every 5
> years (out of a 5 year total budget of 300 million or more) further weakens
> AtLarge, weakens ICANN's effectiveness and would hurt Trust in ICANN and
> the multi-stakeholder process. We have gone through this argument before -
> in London.
>
>
> Certainly every time they find out how much effort and time is spent in
>> discussions that do not improve the operation of ICANN's core
>> responsibilitie they have a field day of fuming against ICANN, which feeds
>> many other adverse streams. More and more we have people who come into
>> ICANN to find what it is about then find a role instead of coming to ICANN
>> with a problem to fix or a principle to promote.
>>
>> So let's everybody get their act together and follow your example of
>> making people prepared for effectiveness.
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>>
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>> Facultad de Química UNAM
>> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
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>> *Desde:* lac-discuss-en [lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org]
>> en nombre de Roberto Gaetano [roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com]
>> *Enviado el:* domingo, 28 de abril de 2019 17:24
>> *Hasta:* sivasubramanian muthusamy
>> *CC:* LACRALO discussion list; ICANN ALAC list; Discussion for At-Large
>> Europe; afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org; APRALO;
>> na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] [EURO-Discuss] [APAC-Discuss]
>> [ALAC-Announce] IMPORTANT - deuxieme / second / Segundo session - FIRST
>> ATLAS III Webinars in EN with ES, FR interpretation
>>
>> Siva,
>> My personal opinion is that the course is indeed very time consuming in
>> case the person does not know already at least some of the issues.
>> On the other hand, what would be the return on the investment of
>> supporting a person for attending a conference where that person would be
>> unable to understand the complex issues, letting alone the ability to
>> contribute?
>> I strongly believe that the purpose of ATLAS III is to be able to
>> significantly progress on the issues that are on ALAC’s table and to
>> provide strategic directions for the future, and that requires participant
>> who are fully informed about the basics and eager to contribute. To bring
>> people who do not fulfil these requirements would be a waste of money - and
>> ICANN is already being criticised enough about the way it spends the money
>> that we do not need to open another front.
>> The question is, maybe, a different one: why have we waited until the
>> eleventh hour to produce this training material and to urge people to
>> benefit for it? I am currently chairing the EURALO Individual Users
>> Association, and I will invite all the members - about 50 people plus a
>> handful of observers - to get the training, regardless they plan to apply
>> for travel support or not.
>> Cheers,
>> Roberto
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25.04.2019, at 19:26, sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 7:12 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> just a quick follow-up on the announcement below. I have received
>>> several emails from people who missed this first set of Webinars due to
>>> various reasons, and asked me what they could do to qualify for ATLAS III
>>> travel support.
>>>
>>> The *default *option is to follow the ICANN Learn Course on
>>> http://learn.icann.org/
>>>
>>> The course, "Domain Names Demystified" corresponds to the Webinar that
>>> Alan and I presented.
>>>
>>
>> It is five lessons. It is almost as time consuming as a Certification
>> program that one takes as a 6 months part time online course. It is a high
>> barrier in terms of time commitment just to comply with the stipulations of
>> the pre-requirements for participation in an ATLAS summit.
>>
>> Wonder if GNSO or GAC requirements for participant funding require the
>> applicant to go through a similar pre-requirement. Have you or members of
>> ALAC tried to go through and complete this program, even though you are not
>> knowledgeable, and even though it is not designed for you, just in order to
>> understand how complex it makes it for those interested in participating in
>> the ATLAS summit?
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M
>>
>>
>>> Until the application period closes, it is never too late to complete
>>> these ATLAS III Preparation Courses. Please see the instructions on:
>>> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=105389506
>>> In order to go directly to the Course Curriculum, after you have logged
>>> in (getting an account is super easy), you have to click on "Enrollment
>>> Key", which is ATLASIII and then you'll be able to see "Required ATLAS III
>>> ICANN Learn Courses" when you click on the "Courses" tab.
>>>
>>> And of course, even if you have followed the Webinar, you should be
>>> interested in following the course too, because it is very interesting and
>>> contains a lot more in depth information, so you'll really know a lot when
>>> you arrive in Montréal.
>>> In fact you'll find out that there are a lot of other courses that you
>>> could take in the overall course "catalog" - all free and all giving you
>>> the ability to learn more about many aspects of ICANN's space, and beyond!
>>>
>>> Kindest regards,
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24/04/2019 01:30, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Español después de la version en inglés*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Version francaise en bas du mail*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *********************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On behalf of Joanna Kulesza and Alfredo Calderon, Co-Chairs of the ATLAS
>>> III Capacity Building Sub Group, we would like to invite you to join the
>>>  *first webinars of the mandatory ATLAS III Webinars
>>> <https://community.icann.org/x/wh1IBg>*: *Domain Names, * which will be
>>> held in English with French and Spanish interpretation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The trainers are Alan Greenberg
>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Alan+Greenberg+SOI> and Olivier
>>> Crépin-Leblond
>>> <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=36211634>.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The *replicated* webinars are scheduled on:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. *Tuesday 23 April at 21:00 UTC* – for other times:https://tinyurl.com/yyffk4us
>>>    [tinyurl.com]
>>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_yyffk4us&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=eQBcB4eBgwEZxQeAZJeQeFUUTr6x4KvAQXdEKMSioFw&e=>
>>>       1. Call details: https://community.icann.org/x/GAJ1Bg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. *Wednesday 24 April at 12:00 UTC* – for other times:https://tinyurl.com/y289axqq
>>>    [tinyurl.com]
>>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_y289axqq&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=IOS7Z7fDPJZh5K5Q14RbcZ6opCjziP0V3W1JB2HywxI&e=>
>>>       1. Call details: https://community.icann.org/x/GwJ1Bg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *To meet the attendance requirements for ATLAS III, participants must
>>> join both the Adigo Bridge as well as the Adobe Connect Room no more than
>>> 10 minutes after the scheduled start time. *
>>>
>>> *There will be questions asked at the end of each webinar. These are
>>> compulsory if you want to complete the courses in French or Spanish.*
>>>
>>> (note Application Guidelines <https://community.icann.org/x/cgB1Bg> under
>>> ATLAS III Prep Courses),
>>>
>>>
>>> Adobe Connect:  https://participate.icann.org/atlas3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Conference IDs:
>>>
>>> EN: 1638
>>>
>>> ES: 1738
>>>
>>> FR: 1838
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you require a dial-out, please contact At-Large Staff at
>>> staff at atlarge.icann.org (*do not reply to all*) with:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - date and time of the webinar
>>>    - language channel
>>>    - your preferred telephone number.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *******************
>>> Queridos todos,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> En nombre de Joanna Kulesza y Alfredo Calderón, Copresidentes del
>>> Subgrupo de Desarrollo de Capacidades de ATLAS III, nos gustaría invitarlos
>>> a participar en el *primer seminario web* de los seminarios web
>>> obligatorios de ATLAS III: *Nombres de dominio,* que se celebrarán en
>>> inglés y la interpretación en español y en francés.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Los presentadores estaràn Alan Greenberg y Olivier Crépin-Leblond.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Los webinars replicados están programados en:
>>>
>>> 1. *Martes 23 de abril a las 21:00 UTC* - para otros horarios:https://tinyurl.com/yyffk4us
>>> [tinyurl.com]
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_yyffk4us&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=eQBcB4eBgwEZxQeAZJeQeFUUTr6x4KvAQXdEKMSioFw&e=>
>>>
>>> a. Detalles de la llamada: https://community.icann.org/x/GAJ1Bg
>>>
>>> 2. *Miércoles 24 de abril a las 12:00 UTC*, para otros horarios: https://tinyurl.com/y289axqq
>>> [tinyurl.com]
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_y289axqq&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=IOS7Z7fDPJZh5K5Q14RbcZ6opCjziP0V3W1JB2HywxI&e=>
>>>
>>> a. Detalles de la llamada: https://community.icann.org/x/GwJ1Bg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Para cumplir con los requisitos de asistencia para ATLAS III, los
>>> participantes deben unirse tanto a Adigo Bridge como a Adobe Connect Room
>>> no más de 10 minutos después de la hora de inicio programada. Habrá
>>> preguntas al final de cada seminario web. Estos son obligatorios si desea
>>> completar los cursos en francés o español. (tome nota de las Pautas de
>>> aplicación <https://community.icann.org/x/cgB1Bg> bajo los cursos de
>>> preparación ATLAS III).*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/atlas3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ID de conferencia:
>>>
>>> EN: 1638
>>>
>>> ES: 1738
>>>
>>> FR: 1838
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Si necesita una llamada de salida, comuníquese con el personal de
>>> At-Large en staff at atlarge.icann.org (no responda a todos) con:
>>>
>>>    - fecha y hora del webinar
>>>    - canal de idioma
>>>    - Su número de teléfono preferido.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gracias.
>>>
>>> Saludos cordiales,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *******************
>>> Chers tous,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Au nom de Joanna Kulesza et Alfredo Calderon, co-présidents du
>>> sous-groupe de renforcement des capacités d'ATLAS III, nous vous invitons à
>>> participer *au premiers webinaires des webinaires obligatoires d'ATLAS
>>> III: Noms de Domaines*, qui se dérouleront en anglais *avec
>>> interpretation en français et espagnol.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Les présentateurs seront Alan Greenberg et Olivier Crépin-Leblond.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Les webinaires répliqués sont programmés:
>>>
>>>    1. *Mardi 23 avril à 21h00 UTC* - pour les autres heures:https://tinyurl.com/yyffk4us
>>>    [tinyurl.com]
>>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_yyffk4us&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=eQBcB4eBgwEZxQeAZJeQeFUUTr6x4KvAQXdEKMSioFw&e=>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. Détails de l'appel: https://community.icann.org/x/GAJ1Bg
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. *Mercredi 24 avril à 12h00 UTC* - pour les autres heures: https://tinyurl.com/y289axqq
>>>    [tinyurl.com]
>>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_y289axqq&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=IOS7Z7fDPJZh5K5Q14RbcZ6opCjziP0V3W1JB2HywxI&e=>
>>>       1. Détails de l'appel: https://community.icann.org/x/GwJ1Bg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Pour répondre aux critères de participation à ATLAS III, les
>>> participants doivent se joinder à la ligne Adigo et la salle Adobe Connect
>>> au plus tard 10 minutes après l'heure de début prévue. Des questions seront
>>> posées à la fin de chaque webinaire. Celles-ci sont obligatoires si vous
>>> souhaitez compléter les cours en français ou en espagnol.*
>>>
>>> *(notez les directives d’application
>>> <https://community.icann.org/x/cgB1Bg> dans les cours de préparation au
>>> ATLAS III)*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/atlas3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ID de conférence:
>>>
>>> EN: 1638
>>>
>>> ES: 1738
>>>
>>> FR: 1838
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Si vous avez besoin qu’une opératrice vous connecte, veuillez contacter
>>> le personnel At-Large à staff at atlarge.icann.org (ne pas répondre à
>>> tous) avec:
>>>
>>>    - La date et heure du wébinaire
>>>    - Langue
>>>    - Votre numéro de téléphone préféré.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nous vous en remercions.
>>>
>>> Cordialement,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community
>>>
>>> Website: atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlarge.icann.org_&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=STomDGMA-bGlBpO0-c6MMsR8e8aeX8CxqhDXSrYumX8&e=>
>>>
>>>
>>> Facebook: facebook.com/icann [facebook.com]
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icannatlarge&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=-tu9ayvbC3Jp0Y8___bXwuLPy4SWMemy5Tn5Zb_20do&e=>atlarge
>>> [facebook.com]
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icannatlarge&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=-tu9ayvbC3Jp0Y8___bXwuLPy4SWMemy5Tn5Zb_20do&e=>
>>>
>>> Twitter: @ [twitter.com]
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>>> [twitter.com]
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANNAtLarge&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=Wwb7Mdq_KByGGA0EukxQ0UuzOzQTMykTnOT46kkTQ2w&e=>
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