[NA-Discuss] Regional Advice on .HEALTH Objection

Wed Mar 6 18:09:48 UTC 2013

Greetings from Halifax.

I am still unsure, but the deadline is today.

For that reason I will support NARALO advancing the objections for
consideration by ALAC, and will take the time (if the objections are indeed
advanced) to learn more and make a better informed choice (in consultation
with NARALO) when the ALAC is called upon to vote.

- Evan (via mobile)
On 2013-03-06 1:13 PM, "Garth Bruen" <gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:

> Eduardo, in terms of the IDN advice, I think there is a mistake in the
> APRALO statement. I think they meant to say “NO”
>
>
>
> From: Eduardo Diaz [mailto:eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:47 AM
> To: Garth Bruen
> Cc: NARALO Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Regional Advice on .HEALTH Objection
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>
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> Garth:
>
>
>
> I disagree. As far as I know, the only objection that was in question was
> the IDN health/healthy issue. For this case, I will follow the APRALO
> advice which is as follows:
>
>
>
> "5) After your review of the new gTLD application for the “.健康” string by
> the applicant “Stable Tone Limited”, the objection statement on community
> grounds and related comments by the At-Large community and the applicant at
>  <https://community.icann.org/x/0YxwAg>
> https://community.icann.org/x/0YxwAg , the APRALO
>
> YES, supports the filing of the objection statement by the ALAC against
> applicant "Stable Tone Limited" for the ".健康" string   - but  only if
>
>  the company voluntarily  submits Public Interest Commitment (PIC)
> specifications to ICANN for inclusion in its new gTLD registry agreement
> that display an intent to be socially responsible and carry them out to
> address the weaknesses in its application with regard to consumer
> protection (i.e., clear guidelines for assessing potential harm to
> consumers and consumer health and the appropriate measures for addressing
> that harm including consultations with relevant experts/authorities).
>
> In the event that such PIC is not forthcoming from Stable Tone, APRALO
> will overturn its support for “.健康” at the ALAC level when it is time for
> the ALAC to make a decision."
>
>
>
> My vote is to move forward with all the objections and indicate the same
> caveat as suggested by APRALO for the IDN health/healthy string.
>
>
>
> -ed
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Garth Bruen <gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> The discussions on this topic and additional documents offered further
> confirm the role and interest of WHO in this objection.
>
> It is clear from the previously submitted applications by WHO that they
> have
> specific interest in the .HEALTH string. Why they did not apply this time
> is
> beyond me (per John L. they would have received a discount). If they had
> applied they would likely be the most obvious candidate. However, at this
> point to take a "if I can't have it, no one can" approach is not an
> appropriate use of the community objection.
>
> It would be a mistake to support these objections and may reflect badly on
> ALAC later if they go forward. This objection came in very late and along
> with four other objections which made it impossible to conduct full
> research. If the RG had access and knowledge of all this information at the
> time, the objection may not have passed.
>
> We have until midnight UTC (7PM EST) today to submit advice to ALAC, my
> advice is that it is not in our interest to move forward on these
> objections.
>
> -Garth
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Evan
> Leibovitch
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 11:42 PM
> To: Eric Brunner-Williams
> Cc: NARALO Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Regional Advice on .HEALTH Objection
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> The WHO is obviously aware of the process, having applied before.
>
> It could have applied in this round as a community application, and had an
> immediate leg up on others, but chose not to. Why it would apply then and
> not now is puzzling, but it has made the decision to not contend for the
> string and other entries should not be enjoined simply because they are not
> the WHO. And as interesting as the 2000 application was, the fact remains
> that it was not granted. If its existence is not well known, the reasons
> for
> its rejection at that time are even less known.
>
> In any case, that was then and this is now. There is no WHO application for
> .health at this time. There may indeed be sensible reasons to advance some
> or all of objections against the Latin-string applications(*), but putting
> the string on hold while waiting for the WHO to (maybe) apply for it at a
> later round is not one of those reasons. Nobody -- with the possible
> exception for dot-brands based on invented words -- is merely entitled to
> any string. And given the conduct of the WHO and other IGOs in the current
> GNSO working group regarding non-profit name blocking, I actually have
> little reason to believe that their interests in gTLDs are any less
> self-serving than the for-profits.
>
> (*) Based on recent feedback from Hong, Rinalia and Cheryl, I oppose
> advancing any objections on the Chinese variant.
>
> - Evan
>
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