[NA-Discuss] Suspension of Posting Privileges for Eric Brunner Williams

Kieren McCarthy kieren at dot-nxt.com
Sat Jun 22 03:36:24 UTC 2013


I'm afraid that's precisely the point: you have *not* answered the
questions to anyone's but your satisfaction.

And that simply isn't good enough if you expect to hold yourself out as a
representative of others.



Kieren





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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1 at gov.nu.ca>wrote:

> I'll let the chair respond.  I've pointed to the appropriate regulations
> enough times and answered the same questions enough times.  I think Olivier
> has put it very well.
>
> D
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> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Suspension of Posting Privileges for Eric
> Brunner     Williams
>
> So, to recap:
>
> During elections, someone who says they wish to stand for chair is:
>
> * Told they insulted someone two months earlier
> * Suspended from posting to an open list
> * Told that their credentials are not correct
> * Informed that they are not eligible to stand for chair
>
> In order to be allowed to continue, this person is told to:
>
>
> * Apologize for a message that so far no one has been able to ascertain who
> it is and what he should be apologizing for
> * To resubmit his ALS application - which presumably would push him past
> the election time
>
>
> When this series of events is questioned by other members of the community,
> we learn the following:
>
> * All the decisions made were made by the Chair and Secretary with some
> level of consultation with the ALAC chair
> * That it was a "really hard" decision and that those three people are
> committed to open discussion, despite the clear evidence otherwise
>
> When no less than four community members continue to question the process,
> the response is that these three people stand by their decision. No other
> information is provided.
>
>
> So, some questions:
>
> * Who exactly did Eric Brunner-Williams insult and by saying what? No one
> on this list has seen any evidence of it.
>
> * When exactly did the NARALO chair and secretary get to decide they could
> introduce arbitrary conditions for membership of the organization?
>
> * Where are these discussions documented and why did the parties in
> question not use the Ombudsman process rather than decide between
> themselves what the appropriate action was?
>
> * Why do "elected" NARALO representatives feel that they do not have to
> respond to the clear concerns expressed by the community they are there to
> represent?
>
>
> This is really poor even for the low standards set by NARALO.
>
>
> Kieren
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kieren McCarthy
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>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > as Chair of the ALAC, I am always concerned about a breaking of the
> > inclusive atmosphere in any part of our community.
> >
> > One such cause is the writing of ad-hominem accusations on the list.
> > This ends up being archived, picked up by search engines and ultimately
> > makes everybody look bad.
> > I too am sad that it had to come to this - but we are all grown up
> > people here and we do not need to pick at each other personally. I
> > understand sometimes that debates and discussions can get out of hand.
> > But offending other people is not the way that we'll manage to better
> > channel the points of view of Internet users into the ICANN process -
> > and it is not the way we'll encourage more people to get involved and to
> > contribute, because a hostile atmosphere will scare them away.
> > For this reason, Garth had my full support for his actions that he had
> > to take as NARALO Chair.
> >
> > If Eric feels he has been unfairly treated, the Ombudsman is indeed a
> > possible avenue for appeal.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Olivier Crépin-Leblond
> > ALAC Chair
> >
> > On 21/06/2013 17:07, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
> > > Our Chair can add conditions to re-instatement before a person is
> > allowed back on the list.  This particular case was discussed with the
> ALAC
> > Chair as well as the NARALO leadership and this course was accepted.  The
> > Code of Conduct is a document that was agreed to by the NARALO.  This
> > action was also not taken upon just one instance of a violation of the
> Code
> > of Conduct.  This was the third time showing a pattern of abuse.  Garth
> > really did not want to take this action because of the perception of a
> > "rival to his position" being silenced.  However, as Chair, he did have
> to
> > take action because this was about abuse of our members.
> >
> > --
> > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
> > http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
> >
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