[NA-Discuss] Building consensus on dealing with the election tie

Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
Fri Jul 26 12:32:28 UTC 2013


On the issue of working together.  This is  an interesting take on the
solution.  I have never seen such a solution before but it has merit,
especially if it repeats another tie

My problem is the job duties since they are not codified and documented and
it will  require work to delegate which tasks are assigned to whom.

I spoke with Garth briefly on this and he will be following up as well.

Glenn

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On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Eduardo Diaz
<eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>wrote:

> I suggest a litle variation:
>
> Let both secretariat work in conjunction while the rules are changed and a
> new vote is taken. If there ia another tie, then we can do as Evan has
> suggested.
>
> -ed
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I would like to suggest conducting a poll of NARALO members on the best
> way
> > to deal with the tie for Secretariat resulting from the recently-held
> vote.
> > While we need to revise our regulations regarding tie-breaking, we have
> an
> > immediate need to resolve the current situation before the next ICANN
> > meeting.
> >
> > Based on discussions I have heard to date, there are three paths to
> > resolving this that have received some interest:
> >
> >    1. Random tie-break
> >    The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held, and the rules
> >    are modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a random
> > method,
> >    supervised by at least two non-candidate members and/or At-Large
> staff.
> >
> >    2. Tie-break by NA-Region ALAC members
> >    The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held and he rules
> are
> >    modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a consensus
> > achieved
> >    in private by the three ALAC members for North America (Alan, Eduardo
> > and
> >    myself). Since there are three of us, no deadlock is allowed there
> >
> >    3. Shared Secretariat
> >    No new election is held, and NARALO declares both Darlene and Glenn as
> >    co-Secretariats. While there is no precedent for this in NARALO, there
> > is
> >    elsewhere in ICANN At-Large (both co-Chair and co-Secretariats have
> been
> >    done in other regions). The two would alternate travel to ICANN
> meetings
> >    (though both would naturally be at the Summit in London). In the case
> > that
> >    any of the North American At-Large leadership cannot attend a meeting
> >    (Chair, travel-designated secretariat or ALAC member), the
> > "non-travelling"
> >    secretariat member would automatically be designated to take that
> travel
> >    allocation. The rules may still be modified in case of future ties,
> but
> >    such action is not required immediately.
> >
> > So I am proposing that, in advance of the next NARALO call, we could do
> an
> > informal poll of members (by Bigpulse or Doodle) to gain a sense of
> > preferences between these options that may help guide a regional
> consensus
> > on the August call.
> >
> > Is this a workable plan? Are the options above a valid representation of
> > the ones discussed? (There are some other tie-break methods I have
> > eliminated because of lack of support to date).
> >
> > I admit that when I started thinking about the tie I had not given any
> > thought to the shared secretariat idea, but it has grown on me since.
> There
> > is a significant amount of work to do, and it would be IMO a shame to
> force
> > an all-or-nothing tiebreak on two people with both popular support and an
> > eagerness to do the job.
> >
> > - Evan
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