[NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection

Evan Leibovitch evan at telly.org
Tue Jul 23 17:13:26 UTC 2013


Alan, would a statement from the ALAC have any effect on the ATRT2
investigation of this? Is it aware how many cases have been closed without
resolution?


On 23 July 2013 13:03, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:

> This was not a new announcement but a re-affirmation that the reporting
> structure would continue as the gTLD structure is cleaved off. It is a
> relationship that the ATRT-2 is looking at carefully in its review of the
> WHOIS RT implementation review.
>
> Alan
>
>
> At 23/07/2013 12:17 PM, Bob Bruen wrote:
>
>> Hi Evan,
>>
>> He made the same announcement when he first took office. I guess somehow
>> he forgot that or lost the reporting chain.
>>
>>               --bob
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>>
>>  Fadi made a specific point that Complance will report directly to him
>>> during the speech in which he announced the spin off of the gTLD
>>> expansion into a separate division.
>>>
>>> It's probably time for the ALAC to issue specific advice to the Board and
>>> CEO to take care of this backlog. Copy to ATRT2, as IMO this is a massive
>>> accountability issue.
>>>
>>> I propose us collectively writing such a formal statement of advice, to
>>> be
>>> agreed to by NARALO consensus and then advanced to ALAC (which I would
>>> commit to do).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 July 2013 11:52, Garth Bruen <gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thanks Danny, it's actually even worse than most are aware of. Hope to
>>>> have
>>>> more details soon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger at yahoo.com**]
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:51 PM
>>>> To: Garth Bruen; 'Kieren McCarthy'; na-discuss at atlarge-lists.**
>>>> icann.org <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Garth,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the update.  Having read your report and having noted the
>>>> June
>>>> Compliance update (1892 complaints - 4 enforcement actions), it's fairly
>>>> clear that the primary function of the Compliance department is
>>>> two-fold:
>>>> (1) citing registrars for "Failure to pay past due accreditation fees
>>>> pursuant to Section 3.9 of the RAA" and (2) sweeping everything else
>>>> under
>>>> the rug.
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate your ongoing efforts to deal with this matter.
>>>>
>>>> Danny Younger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   _____
>>>>
>>>> From: Garth Bruen <gbruen at knujon.com>
>>>> To: 'Kieren McCarthy' <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>;
>>>> na-discuss at atlarge-lists.**icann.org<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:15 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kieren,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the comment. Our elections are critical and getting them
>>>> right
>>>> is
>>>> even more important.
>>>>
>>>> As far as reporting goes I would like to draw your attention to this
>>>> document: http://www.knujon.com/icann_**compliance_2012.pdf<http://www.knujon.com/icann_compliance_2012.pdf>
>>>> <http://www.knujon.com/icann_**compliance_2012.pdf<http://www.knujon.com/icann_compliance_2012.pdf>>
>>>> which shows that
>>>> ICANN's internal compliance function is essentially non-functional
>>>> regardless of recently published data by ICANN. This was a follow up to
>>>> a
>>>> report sent directly to the CEO
>>>> (
>>>> http://www.icann.org/en/news/**correspondence/bruen-to-**
>>>> chehade-22apr13-en.pdf<http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/bruen-to-chehade-22apr13-en.pdf>
>>>> ) which has not been responded to.
>>>>
>>>> ICANN is failing the public At-Large and won't discuss these core
>>>> concerns,
>>>> has been completely silent on them. I think you can help by raising your
>>>> voice to ask about them as well from within our community.
>>>>
>>>> There is a very long report log here:
>>>>
>>>> https://community.icann.org/**display/atlarge/At-Large+**
>>>> Durban+Meeting+Reports+<https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Durban+Meeting+Reports+>
>>>> Workspace which is being constantly updated by At-Large representatives,
>>>> even remote ones. Working groups regularly give reports on our monthly
>>>> calls. We'd love to have you come on and give your perspective, let me
>>>> know.
>>>>
>>>> So, it's not really a question of reporting from At-Large, it's more of
>>>> a
>>>> question of why we have to leave our families and travel thousands of
>>>> miles
>>>> just to be ignored by ICANN. It's really not that much fun. If the
>>>> problems
>>>> could be solved and questions answered, we wouldn't have to go at all.
>>>>
>>>> -Garth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-**lists.icann.org<na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@**atlarge-lists.icann.org<na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>]
>>>> On Behalf Of Kieren
>>>> McCarthy
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:09 PM
>>>> To: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.**icann.org<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
>>>>
>>>> I wish as much time, energy and effort had gone into informing us about
>>>> the
>>>> meeting you were paid as our representatives to attend last week in
>>>> Durban
>>>> as has been out into bickering about voting procedures.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kieren
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [from mobile device]
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume that by "incumbent" you mean people in office such as the
>>>>> ALAC
>>>>>
>>>> members or ALAC Chair (usually it is used referring to the person who
>>>> is in
>>>> office but is in a contested election).
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess our experiences are different. Certainly someone who is part
>>>>> of a
>>>>>
>>>> current organization is familiar with the others who may be in a
>>>> contested
>>>> election. But KNOW is definitely not the same as TRUST and not
>>>> infrequently
>>>> KNOW is synonymous with wanting someone new. (And I am not implying
>>>> anything
>>>> about the people in the current election).
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> At 21/07/2013 02:34 PM, toml at communisphere.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I am trying to say is that incumbents will better know and trust
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>> known player. Amopholy (sp?), might describe the human response that
>>>> Option
>>>> 4 draws upon. There are both good and bad associated with this. Random
>>>> is
>>>> life.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> T9m Lowenhaupt
>>>>>>
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>> --
>> Dr. Robert Bruen
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