[NA-Discuss] Fw: Due Diligence complete- Regional Advice requested ALS applicant "(170) University Community Partnership for Social Action Research"

Mon Nov 26 02:22:05 UTC 2012

Bob, the relevant section of the ICANN Bylaws 
(http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#XI-2.4, sub-section i.2) read:

The criteria and standards for the certification 
of At-Large Structures shall be established in 
such a way that participation by individual 
Internet users who are citizens or residents of 
countries within the Geographic Region (as 
defined in Section 5 of Article VI) of the RALO 
will predominate in the operation of each 
At-Large Structure within the RALO, while not 
necessarily excluding additional participation, 
compatible with the interests of the individual 
Internet users within the region, by others.

The section of our ALS Criteria 
(http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/framework.htm) 
is syntactically cleaner, but essentially the same:

Be constituted so that participation by 
individual Internet users who are citizens or 
residents of countries within the Geographic 
Region in which the ALS is based will predominate 
in the ALS' operation. The ALS may permit 
additional participation by others that is 
compatible with the interests of the individual 
Internet users within the region.

So the issue is who controls the ALS. At first 
glance, this organization seems to have much 
merit, but it is far less clear that the meet the 
actual criteria. If they had a North American 
"chapter", that would likely qualify. Or if due 
to their support from Arizona and Kitchener their 
membership just happens to be more than 50% local.

Alan

At 25/11/2012 08:30 PM, Bob Bruen wrote:
>Hi Alan,
>
>Is there a requirement stating that members of 
>an organization must be citizens of the Region 
>at a minumum level to be permitted to be an ALS in that Region?
>
>Or is it that some measurement of control must 
>be exercised from within the Region?
>
>I can understand the reasoning to have an ALS be 
>part of the Region, but it seems counter 
>intuitive to keep some international 
>organizations from be members of a RALO. In some 
>cases, international can still mean within a 
>particular Region, but in other cases not.
>
>               thanks, bob
>
>
>
>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>
>>Not sure of the relevance of the question - 
>>ISOC is not ant ALAS, not have they applied to 
>>be. ISOC local chapters which are locally 
>>controlled are what we see within At-Large.
>>
>>Without knowing what percentage of their 
>>members are citizens of residents of North 
>>America, there is no way to know whether they 
>>satisfy the prime ALAS membership criteria.
>>
>>Alan
>>
>>At 25/11/2012 06:55 PM, Garth Bruen at Knujon.com wrote:
>>>How is this different from ISOC?
>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>From: "Bob Bruen" <bruen at coldrain.net>
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:35 PM
>>>To: "Houle Louis" <Louis.Houle at oricom.ca>
>>>Cc: "Garth Bruen at Knujon.com" <gbruen at knujon.com>; "NA Discuss"
>>><na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fw: Due Diligence complete- Regional Advice
>>>requested ALS applicant "(170) University Community Partnership for Social
>>>Action Research"
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > This is from their website:
>>> >
>>> > "UCP-SARnet has been developed and sponsored by the Department of
>>> > Psychology, at Arizona State University (USA) in close collaboration with
>>> > the Centre for Community Based Research (CCBR) in Kitchener (Canada),
>>> > Warsaw School of Social Sciences and Humanities in Warsaw (Poland), and
>>> > other international partners.  Initially co-sponsored by the Centre for
>>> > International Governance Innovations (CIGI), UCP-SARnet is currently
>>> > co-sponsored and hosted by IGLOO in Canada.  UCP-SARnet is also a member
>>> > of the Global Alliance on Community Engaged 
>>> Research and is represented at
>>> > the Global Alliance for ICT and Development."
>>> >
>>> > Of course, there could be more to it...
>>> >
>>> >             --bob
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 25 Nov 2012, Houle Louis wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Garth,
>>> >>
>>> >> From the little I know about UCP, it seems to be a worldwide
>>> >> organization, not North American! I wish I'm wrong but...
>>> >> At least (question 2-d), it's not controled by a North American org.
>>> >> Maybe the DD could be rephrased.
>>> >>
>>> >> Louis Houle
>>> >> Président
>>> >> La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec)
>>> >> Louis.Houle at isocquebec.org
>>> >>
>>> >> Le 2012-11-12 19:48, Garth Bruen at Knujon.com a écrit :
>>> >>> Due Diligence complete- Regional Advice requested ALS applicant "(170)
>>> >>> University Community Partnership for Social Action Research"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: ICANN At-Large Staff
>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 6:19 PM
>>> >>> To: Garth Bruen at Knujon.com ; Thompson, Darlene
>>> >>> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff
>>> >>> Subject: Due Diligence complete- Regional 
>>> Advice requested ALS applicant
>>> >>> "(170) University Community Partnership for Social Action Research"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Dear Garth and Darlene,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On the October 10th we received a NARALO ALS application from
>>> >>> "University Community Partnership for Social Action Research". Please
>>> >>> find the Due Diligence form attached.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We kindly ask you to provide us with the 
>>> regional advice for this ALS in
>>> >>> your capacity as  NARALO Secretary. Your advice will support the ALAC
>>> >>> review on this application.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> According to our timeline for ALS applications the due date for the
>>> >>> regional advice is on 28/11/2012.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We would like to remind you that the DD form could contain sensitive
>>> >>> information. Please read the form carefully before sending it off to
>>> >>> third parties.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Gisella Gruber-White, Matt Ashtiani,
>>> >>> Julia Charvolen
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>>> >>>
>>> >>> E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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