[NA-Discuss] NCUC meeting/Toronto/digital archery

Tue Jun 19 19:51:37 UTC 2012

Corrected pdf link
http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/dryden-to-crocker-17jun12-en.pdf

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:

> The GAC have already come out against DA,
>
> the GAC is concerned that the potential risks associated with the digital
>> archery and batching mechanisms may outweigh the benefits. In light of
>> ICANN’s decision to initiate digital archery on 8 June 2012, *the GAC
>> advises the Board* to consult with the community as a matter of urgency
>> to consider ways to improve its assessment and delegation processes in
>> order to minimise the downside risks and uncertainty for applicants.
>> In line with the concerns raised by the community, this should include a
>> focus on competition and fairness with delegation timing.
>
>
>  Source:
> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/pdfW8Auik6tLt.pdf
>
> More:
> http://domainincite.com/9494-delays-likely-as-governments-demand-gtld-timetable-rethink
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1 at gov.nu.ca>wrote:
>
>> I agree with Evan and I would certainly support a meeting with NCUC to
>> discuss this matter if there is any kind of action that can be taken.  Like
>> Evan, I find hand-wringing and complaining to be a waste of my valuable
>> time.  If it is a strategy meeting with actions to move forward, then I'm
>> all for it.
>>
>> D
>>
>> Darlene A. Thompson
>> Community Access Program Administrator
>> Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP
>> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
>> Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
>> Phone:  (867) 975-5631
>> Fax:  (867) 975-5610
>> E-mail:  dthompson at gov.nu.ca
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:
>> na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Evan Leibovitch
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:23 PM
>> To: Beau Brendler
>> Cc: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NCUC meeting/Toronto/digital archery
>>
>> I warmly extend greetings from the ALAC liaison to the NCSG (ie, me).
>>
>> There is a formal ALAC/NCSG meeting on Monday.
>>
>> One, the NCUC is considering the fairness of digital archery as an issue.
>> > From what I heard on yesterday's NARALO call, we don't consider it a
>> > public-interest issue (which, as you know, I disagree with, in other
>> > words, I agree with the NCUC.
>> >
>>
>> There is a difference between agreement in sentiment and agreement in
>> tactics.
>>
>> I don't know of ANYONE who disagrees with the sentiment "digital archery
>> is dumb, and in practical use no better than a lottery than choosing order
>> of processing". The issue is what to do about it.
>>
>> The Board has already indicated that it is continuing with DA but may in
>> fact (and in response to community reaction) toss the results and try
>> something different. In fact, I've already suggested two alternative
>> methods, though one of them may attract gaming attempts<
>> http://diggy.wordpress.com/2007/03/07/how-to-win-a-jellybean-counting-contest/
>> >
>> .
>>
>> What wasn't resolved in NARALO, though was:
>> - how the prioritization of various applications -- let alone its method
>> -- was a matter of public interest
>> - what At-Large should be doing and is able to do (beyond call attention
>> to the reputation botch)
>>
>> Having a dicussion with the NCUC so we can agree about how awfully ICANN
>> botched DA may relieve stress, but doesn't in itself offer any constructive
>> recommendations going forward. We can stress the need to look at the only
>> two existing categories of applicants -- IDNs and community -- as deserving
>> of priority in any new batching system. But unless we have something new or
>> novel to add, we'd just be adding to the existing cacophony of protest.
>>
>> Now... do you have a plan to come out of such discussion with a specific
>> action item? If so I'm certainly open to change my mind. There is some
>> flexibility in the NCSG/ALAC agenda, but I myself an averse to simple joint
>> complaint sessions without an end game.
>>
>>
>> Two, the NCUC is planning for Toronto.
>> >
>>
>> There is certainly an opportunity for joint outreach here.
>>
>> And: Can we get with them on Toronto and possibly plan something together?
>> > We did do some joint event planning in San Francisco, which resulted
>> > in the well-attended Internet Town Hall.
>> >
>>
>> While attendance was good, I don't consider the Town Hall to have been
>> very effective in actually creating any go-forward policy strategy useful
>> for ICANN. Lost of aired grievances and collective hand wringing, zero
>> action items resulting. There was debating on which speakers had more
>> credibility than others when discussing Internet access blocking in Africa.
>> And most of it was about issues far outside ICANN's realm. So if the target
>> is doing another meeting like what happened in SF, I'm personally not
>> interested and would not attend. We're not IGF.
>>
>>
>> > Just a thought -- strength in numbers.
>> >
>>
>> Collecting the numbers, and then not doing anything with the result,
>> provided a sense of frustration and wasted opportunity that I'd say in
>> hindsight to have been worse than never having been teased at all.
>>
>> - Evan
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