[NA-Discuss] NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31, Another Statement of Interest
Seth M Reiss
seth.reiss at lex-ip.com
Mon Jul 23 00:51:20 UTC 2012
Dear NARALO
I would like to join Garth in running for the open chair position that has
consumed so much debate of late.
I represent one of the original ALS', the Intellectual Property and
Technology Section of the Hawaii State Bar Association, and have since
NARAOLO was first convened in Puerto Rico in June 2007. I have attended a
handful of meeting since then including the At Large Summit held in Mexico
City in 2008.
I have served as one of ALAC's representative to the recently completed
WhoIs Review Team. I am currently serving as an ALAC selected
representative to the New GTLD Review Group.
While I do not believe I have any conflicts of interest, I will disclose
that I am a WIPO domain name dispute panelist for which I get paid
approximately $1,000 two to three times a year. I am in private practice
and represent individual and small businesses, and occasionally a large
business, primarily in intellectual property and technology law related
matters.
If I were to serve you as your chair, my personal agenda would be to promote
constructive communications within the group and between NARALO and other
ICANN governance bodies.
I am posting my statement of interest here as I understand there is no other
page for this purpose.
I would encourage others to join Garth and me in offering to play the
important role of NARALO chair in furtherance of good ICAAN governance.
Seth Reiss
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1. Re: Conference Call Attendance! (Carlton Samuels)
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3. Re: Voting None of the Above Re: ? (Thompson, Darlene)
4. Re: Conference Call Attendance! (Thompson, Darlene)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:16:13 -0500
From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Conference Call Attendance!
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Hey Darlene:
I'm following the discussion and just to contextualize your note, let not
your heart be troubled. Instead, take pride in 10-14 people regularly -
regularly! - on a telecon! This, from a 22-member RALO!
To compare, my own RALO has 37 ALS. We set the quorum for a teleconference
to a bottom feeding 8. And I can't tell you how many times we struggle to
have a quorate telecon.
You can well imagine how this works without an understand of what consensus
decision-making means, in practice.
...and why this idea that my job - in a voluntary association! - ought to be
akin that of a priest leaves me cold!
- Carlton
==============================
Carlton A Samuels
Mobile: 876-818-1799
*Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
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On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:51 AM,
<na-discuss-<na-discuss-request at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:19:35 +0000
> From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1 at GOV.NU.CA>
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
> To: Avri Doria <avri at ella.com>, NA-Discuss Discuss
> <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>
> Hey Avri,
>
> We regular,y get 10 - 14 people on our conference calls. If you can
> suggest a way to get more I would love to hear it!
>
> D
>
> Darlene A. Thompson
> CAP Administrator
> N-CAP/Department of Education
> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
> Phone: (867) 975-5631
> Fax: (867) 975-5610
> dthompson at gov.nu.ca
> ________________________________________
> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Avri Doria [
> avri at ella.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:36 PM
> To: NA-Discuss Discuss
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
>
> Hi,
>
> Doesn't this mean we really need to do outreach to the ALS that form
> the RALO to make sure that at least those organizations that have
> heard of ICANN and joined a RALO, are frequently invited into the
> discussion? And I know it isn't easy.
>
> We seem to have 22 ALSes in NARALO. How many participate in meeting?
> in votes?
>
>
> avri
>
>
> On 19 Jul 2012, at 14:01, Bob Bruen wrote:
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 00:37:52 +0200
From: Avri Doria <avri at ella.com>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Conference Call Attendance!
To: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
Cc: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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hi,
I think that ratio is rather good. And I asked because I did not know.
Carlton: I do not understand the reference to priests.
But then again I do not understand the differentiation people are making
between a job one does for money and one that one does as a volunteer. I
always thought I need to bring the same level of devotion to both - if
anything, perhaps even a bit more goes to the volunteer job because I am
doing it because I think it is needed and I want to and not just because
someone is giving me money.
And no, please before anyone jumps at me defensively, this is not meant as
either a VolunteerBash or a StaffBash*.
avri
* An aside: is it possibe to disagree with or criticise a member of ICANN
staff without being accused of StaffBashing?
On 22 Jul 2012, at 21:16, Carlton Samuels wrote:
> Hey Darlene:
> I'm following the discussion and just to contextualize your note, let
> not your heart be troubled. Instead, take pride in 10-14 people
> regularly - regularly! - on a telecon! This, from a 22-member RALO!
>
> To compare, my own RALO has 37 ALS. We set the quorum for a
> teleconference to a bottom feeding 8. And I can't tell you how many
> times we struggle to have a quorate telecon.
>
> You can well imagine how this works without an understand of what
> consensus decision-making means, in practice.
>
> ...and why this idea that my job - in a voluntary association! - ought
> to be akin that of a priest leaves me cold!
>
> - Carlton
>
> ==============================
> Carlton A Samuels
> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> =============================
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:51 AM,
> <na-discuss-<na-discuss-request at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:19:35 +0000
>> From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1 at GOV.NU.CA>
>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
>> To: Avri Doria <avri at ella.com>, NA-Discuss Discuss
>> <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>
>> Hey Avri,
>>
>> We regular,y get 10 - 14 people on our conference calls. If you can
>> suggest a way to get more I would love to hear it!
>>
>> D
>>
>> Darlene A. Thompson
>> CAP Administrator
>> N-CAP/Department of Education
>> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
>> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
>> Phone: (867) 975-5631
>> Fax: (867) 975-5610
>> dthompson at gov.nu.ca
>> ________________________________________
>> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
>> na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Avri Doria [
>> avri at ella.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:36 PM
>> To: NA-Discuss Discuss
>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Doesn't this mean we really need to do outreach to the ALS that form
>> the RALO to make sure that at least those organizations that have
>> heard of ICANN and joined a RALO, are frequently invited into the
>> discussion? And I know it isn't easy.
>>
>> We seem to have 22 ALSes in NARALO. How many participate in meeting?
>> in votes?
>>
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 19 Jul 2012, at 14:01, Bob Bruen wrote:
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 23:45:28 +0000
From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1 at GOV.NU.CA>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
To: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>, NA-Discuss Discuss
<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
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Keiren,
I think that you have everything pretty much right but I think from what
I've seen on the list is that rather than complaining for you to chip in -
which I believe you are doing. I would like to hear from the group as to
what people might want you to document first but I think that Garth gave one
very good suggestion.
D
I would like to hear other's opinions on Darlene A. Thompson CAP
Administrator N-CAP/Department of Education P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
Phone: (867) 975-5631
Fax: (867) 975-5610
dthompson at gov.nu.ca
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[na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Kieren McCarthy
[kierenmccarthy at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 12:35 PM
To: NA-Discuss Discuss
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
I think it may be worth recapping what has happened in the past week (which
is why I perhaps mistakenly started trying to engage again with NARALO).
* The (former) chair sent an aggressive email to a member who said he was
going to stand against him in the chair election. It was sent to the mailing
list by mistake.
* The secretariat complained on the same mailing list that she was being
bullied by the chair
* Chair and secretariat then publicly exchanged insults and formally
complained to ICANN's Ombudsman.
* The chair resigned.
* A member (myself) asked some basic questions about the organization's
outreach work. They were met aggressively by another elected representative,
and then backed up by the secretariat.
* There are four positions up for election and only one person is standing
for each. Recruitment for more people to stand appears to have been confined
to the same mailing list on which all the unpleasantries of the past week
have played out.
Sorry to be provocative but which of these positive achievements would you
like me to document first?
My basic point is: Physician, heal thyself.
Kieren
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Garth Bruen at Knujon.com <
gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:
> Yes, we need more of a front-facing presence but before we can
> publicize and recruit we need to have purpose and define meaning.
> Which is why I ask that the focus be placed on documenting positive
achievements first.
>
>
> ------------------------------**--------------------
> From: "Kieren McCarthy" <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 11:36 AM
>
> To: "NA-Discuss Discuss"
> <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.**icann.org<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.o
> rg>
> >
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss]Voting None of the Above Re: ?
>
> Hi Garth, all
>>
>> So here's the thing. If elected to a key post in a grassroots
>> organization, being asked questions like: how many members do you
>> have, how many subscribers, what level of engagement -- should be an
>> opportunity to demonstrate effectiveness (especially when seeking
>> re-election) and the answers should be immediately accessible.
>>
>> If asked about a Facebook page, or a Twitter account, or a report of
>> the recent meeting which is the organization's entire reason for
>> existing, then the answers should already be known and easily
>> provided, perhaps with a certain amount of pride.
>>
>> This basic level of commitment by elected representatives is the
>> foundation on which other things can be built. If there is such a
>> foundation and if questions from members are seen as a positive and
>> useful form of engagement, then you will find that not only I but a
>> lot of other people would be willing to help out, to do work (without
>> insisting on being paid for it), and to promote the organization.
>>
>>
>> Kieren
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Garth Bruen at Knujon.com <
>> gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:
>>
>> Kieren, I think your critique of what needs to be done is correct
>> but
>>> there is difference between saying "this must be done by you" and
>>> "this must be done and I will do this part of it" among a group of
volunteers.
>>>
>>> We're all aware of the weak volume of participation, and this can be
>>> fixed.
>>>
>>> What can't be denied is the quality of participation. The expertise
>>> and dedication among this group is remarkable. Before joining
>>> At-Large I was running my volunteer effort with success in specific
>>> areas. But since working with At-Large that success has improved and
>>> I've had the honor of helping others within the group with various
efforts.
>>>
>>> We've made positive policy changes and gotten the attention of the
>>> board, staff and "others." Registrars regularly lurk on this thread
>>> along with anonymous (NON)At-Large support ICANN staff. That's
>>> pretty shocking and wouldn't happen if we were not having an impact.
>>> No one inside the inner circle would care what we said otherwise.
>>>
>>> If you can use your far-reaching voice to highlight the success of
>>> this group it would help get new interest and support for existing
>>> initiatives.
>>> Interview some members and document what they do, so then readers
>>> will see how their Internet problems could also be addressed.
>>>
>>> -Garth
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------****--------------------
>>>
>>> From: "Kieren McCarthy" <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 9:40 AM
>>> To: "NA-Discuss Discuss"
>>> <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.**ic**ann.org<http://icann.org>
>>> <na-discuss at atlarge-**lists.icann.org<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann
>>> .org>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
>>>
>>> Well I think you've both just answered the question as to why there
>>> are
>>>
>>>> so few people engaged in NARALO.
>>>>
>>>> Kieren
>>>>
>>>> [from mobile device]
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:50 AM, "Thompson, Darlene"
>>>> <DThompson1 at GOV.NU.CA>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very well said.
>>>>>
>>>>> D
>>>>>
>>>>> Darlene A. Thompson
>>>>> CAP Administrator
>>>>> N-CAP/Department of Education
>>>>> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
>>>>> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
>>>>> Phone: (867) 975-5631
>>>>> Fax: (867) 975-5610
>>>>> dthompson at gov.nu.ca
>>>>> ______________________________****__________
>>>>> From:
>>>>> na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-**l**ists.icann.org<http://lists.icann.
>>>>> org>
>>>>> <na-discuss-**bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.**org<na-discuss-bounces
>>>>> @atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>> >[
>>>>> na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-**l**ists.icann.org<http://lists.icann.
>>>>> org>
>>>>> <na-discuss-**bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.**org<na-discuss-bounces
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>>>>> >]
>>>>>
>>>>> on behalf of Evan Leibovitch [evan at telly.org]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 2:20 AM
>>>>> To: Kieren McCarthy
>>>>> Cc: NA-Discuss Discuss
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 July 2012 12:39, Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> *At the risk at getting embroiled in pointless name-calling, John
>>>>> I think
>>>>>
>>>>> you are demonstrating precisely the mindset that is behind the
>>>>> reason
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> only one person is standing for each of the four positions.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kieren, you *are* getting embrolied in pointless name calling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny that you suddenly seem so interested in At-Large issues when
>>>>> it comes to our internals. We've been active in promoting
>>>>> end-user sensibilities in WHOIS, gTLD, trademark,
>>>>> internationalization and other issues. I've personally been trying
>>>>> -- practically begging, since before Prague -- to get you to even
>>>>> LOOK at the R3 white paper At-Large has produced, an
>>>>> broadly-crafted attempt to make ICANN more representative of (and
>>>>> accountable to) the world at large. You've been WAY too busy for that.
>>>>> But
>>>>> not too busy to gawk at an unfortunate personal issue, and pass
>>>>> judgement on a consensus process that seems to work for most. Like
>>>>> most decision-making systems, it's imperfect. But it does result
>>>>> in NARALO members' initiating more than its share of ALAC policy
>>>>> initiatives, and still being the one of the only regions with a
>>>>> formal acceptance of participants who aren't part of an ALS.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet... Rather than focus on the substance of what we're
>>>>> actually trying to say -- which you have completely ignored to
>>>>> date -- you seek to dwell on the "what gives you the right to say
>>>>> it?" approach.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry there wasn't any tabloid fodder for you on Monday (the first
>>>>> NARALO call you've attended ... ever?). No meltdown. Not even
>>>>> raised voices.
>>>>> Just
>>>>> talk about policy, planning for the Toronto meeting, and ensuring
>>>>> the everyone who had something to say on our internal issues was
>>>>> heard, Smoothly run and ended on time. But judging from your
>>>>> takeaway comments, Plan B appears to be focusing on why At-Large
>>>>> doesn't function more like Amway.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *So here are some questions:*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? REALLY?
>>>>> Are you really asking volunteers to provide the research that you will
>>>>> then
>>>>> turn around and sell to others?
>>>>> And then complain that we don't have enough time for <insert your pet
>>>>> issue
>>>>> here>?
>>>>>
>>>>> If your questions are intended to discover holes in ICANN's At-Large
>>>>> outreach strategies, you'll have an easy time of it once you do the
>>>>> research. If your intentions are indeed constructive, you're welcome
to
>>>>> join us in advocating At-Large growth through anywhere near the kind
of
>>>>> resources that ICANN expends to grow its pool of registrars and TLDs.
>>>>> But
>>>>> the tone just appears as building a case for diverting our limited
>>>>> volunteer resources away from understanding and shaping the ICANN
>>>>> labyrinth, and towards recruitment. No thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> My ALS (and a number of others) was discovered and brought in by Jacob
>>>>> Malthouse, an ICANN staffer whose job it was to go out and engage
>>>>> members
>>>>> of the public who'd never heard of ICANN -- let alone cared about it
--
>>>>> and
>>>>> convince them to get them involved. Jacob's job was difficult; too bad
>>>>> you
>>>>> can't ask him about it because his position no longer exists, so it's
>>>>> no
>>>>> surprise the job isn't being done anymore. NARALO has made proposals
to
>>>>> duplicate this task using volunteers instead of staff, but our request
>>>>> to
>>>>> get even basic expenses covered for this project has been turned down
>>>>> for
>>>>> two (or it it three?) years in a row.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *These are basic questions, basic steps for a grassroots organization.
>>>>>
>>>>> And they all cost $0.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How sad that you consider volunteer time to be worthless. Mine isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Evan
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 00:09:29 +0000
From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1 at GOV.NU.CA>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Conference Call Attendance!
To: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>,
"na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org"
<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
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Thanks Carlon!
I thought our stats were pretty good, myself.
D
Darlene A. Thompson
CAP Administrator
N-CAP/Department of Education
P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
Phone: (867) 975-5631
Fax: (867) 975-5610
dthompson at gov.nu.ca
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From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
[na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Carlton Samuels
[carlton.samuels at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 3:16 PM
To: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Conference Call Attendance!
Hey Darlene:
I'm following the discussion and just to contextualize your note, let not
your heart be troubled. Instead, take pride in 10-14 people regularly -
regularly! - on a telecon! This, from a 22-member RALO!
To compare, my own RALO has 37 ALS. We set the quorum for a teleconference
to a bottom feeding 8. And I can't tell you how many times we struggle to
have a quorate telecon.
You can well imagine how this works without an understand of what consensus
decision-making means, in practice.
...and why this idea that my job - in a voluntary association! - ought to
be akin that of a priest leaves me cold!
- Carlton
==============================
Carlton A Samuels
Mobile: 876-818-1799
*Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
=============================
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:51 AM,
<na-discuss-<na-discuss-request at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:19:35 +0000
> From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1 at GOV.NU.CA>
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
> To: Avri Doria <avri at ella.com>, NA-Discuss Discuss
> <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>
> Hey Avri,
>
> We regular,y get 10 - 14 people on our conference calls. If you can
> suggest a way to get more I would love to hear it!
>
> D
>
> Darlene A. Thompson
> CAP Administrator
> N-CAP/Department of Education
> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
> Phone: (867) 975-5631
> Fax: (867) 975-5610
> dthompson at gov.nu.ca
> ________________________________________
> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Avri Doria [
> avri at ella.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:36 PM
> To: NA-Discuss Discuss
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
>
> Hi,
>
> Doesn't this mean we really need to do outreach to the ALS that form the
> RALO to make sure that at least those organizations that have heard of
> ICANN and joined a RALO, are frequently invited into the discussion? And
I
> know it isn't easy.
>
> We seem to have 22 ALSes in NARALO. How many participate in meeting? in
> votes?
>
>
> avri
>
>
> On 19 Jul 2012, at 14:01, Bob Bruen wrote:
>
>
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