[NA-Discuss] Convening the NA-RALO Puerto Rico ccTLD .PR "task force"

Thu Sep 29 02:58:52 UTC 2011

Cheryl:

Just to let you know that Ms. Suzanne Sene, US rep to the GAC, knows about
the .pr ccTLD issue for sometime now.  I do not see her in the FOI WG member
list.

We (the Internet Society of Puerto Rico) brought to the attention of Ms.
Sene and Vermita Harris (IANA's contract manager) in May 2010 the fact that
IANA allowed the redelegation of the .pr ccTLD without the University
approval. At the time we could not find any procedures to complain  to IANA
about its redelegation decision.  Ms. Sene indicated that she was going to
investigate the matter with ICANN lawyers. We did not follow-up this matter
with her after that conversation and evidently nothing happen until recently
that the University sued the ccTLD manager.

I am attaching a letter sent by UPR to Mr. John Jefrey (ICANN General
Counsel) dated June 8,  2008 as evidence that University Officials were not
informed of the redelegation.

So, I believe that the FOI WG should look at the .pr ccTLD case closely for
it can help the FOI WG to come out with ideas on how to avoid similar
situations in the future and maybe help to put in place a procedure to
handle any complaint regarding any redelegation.

By the way, can you enlighten me as to what it means "a framework of
interpretation" withing the ICANN context? Is this part of the PDP process?

Gracias.

-ed

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com>wrote:

> You might also want some interaction from what we are doing in the
> Framework
> of Interpretation WG - a  ccNSO:GAC  Joint
> WG<http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/foiwg.htm>  which relates   to
> (along with other things => I have attached a copy of
> our WG Charter) delegation redelegation  terminologies and expectations
>  etc.,,  it is early days  yet  but it has a clear nexus to this matter
> (which will I believe be meeting in Dakar)   I am the ALAC liaison to this
> WG  so let me know if you need anything  from me to assist...
>
>
> Cheryl Langdon-Orr
> (CLO)
>
>
>
> On 28 September 2011 09:30, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>
> > Agreed.
> >
> > If I can help escalate this, let me know. But since Eduardo is soon
> joining
> > ALAC, I suspect this won't be an issue. :-)
> >
> > - Evan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 27 September 2011 19:23, Garth Bruen at Knujon.com <gbruen at knujon.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Let's do it!
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > From: "Beau Brendler" <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:57 PM
> > > To: <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>; <gbruen at knujon.com>
> > > Cc: <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > > Subject: Convening the NA-RALO Puerto Rico ccTLD .PR "task force"
> > >
> > > > Hello Eduardo, Garth, Gareth and all. This note is meant to convene
> the
> > > > "task force" on the Puerto Rico ccTLD issue. I have cc'd the NA-RALO
> > list
> > > > in case I have missed anyone with interest, or forgottenn expressions
> > of
> > > > interest in previous calls. Please join us if you want to get
> involved
> > or
> > > > remind me if you want to be part of the effort going forward!
> > > >
> > > > To jog memories, or if you are new to the issue...there's an article
> (a
> > > > bit old now, and in Spanish) here:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vocero.com/puerto-rico-es/se-llevan-dominio-www-gobierno-pr-sin-autorizacion
> > > >
> > > > I have also attached a copy of the lawsuit, translated into English,
> > > > courtesy of Danny Younger. Eduardo probably has more current
> > information
> > > > on this now, but it's a bit of background.
> > > >
> > > > I recommend we take the following actions:
> > > >
> > > > * Prepare a brief statement that the NA-RALO can make prior to Dakar.
> > If
> > > > Eduardo can point me to, or send me, a summary of the latest facts in
> > the
> > > > case I can use that. Or Eduardo and Garth might want to take a crack
> at
> > > > writing the statement, if that's the case let me know.
> > > >
> > > > * Ask Garth to put this in perspective of other research that's been
> > done
> > > > by Knujon and others on the ccTLD space, with an eye towards
> producing
> > a
> > > > small report or a statement to the effect that "what's going on with
> > > > Puerto Rico's country-code level domain may seem unusual, but
> > considering
> > > > these other things happening with ccTLDS, it's not so unusual." That
> > can
> > > > be the basis of possibly getting some press, because we are going to
> > need
> > > > that, or at least the possibility of it, to get that community to
> take
> > > > notice and get ICANN/IANA to take the matter seriously.
> > > >
> > > > * Make a determination prior to Dakar of what the appropriate
> channels
> > > are
> > > > to raise concerns about this, so that we can send some communication
> up
> > > > those channels prior to Dakar.
> > > >
> > > > Seems to me like those are some concrete first steps to get things
> > > > started. Feel free to add or offer other ideas. I think we have an
> > > > opportunity here since Garth will be joining us in Dakar.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Beau
> > > >
> > > >
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